On Thu, Jul 10, 2025 at 10:55 AM Konstantin Belousov
<kostik...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> On Thu, Jul 10, 2025 at 06:59:35AM -0700, Rick Macklem wrote:
> > I've done a series of commits to main to add support for
> > Solaris style extended attributes (which I called named attributes,
> > which is the NFSv4 term for them).
> >
> > ZFS is currently the only local file system that will support them
> > and only if the ZFS property "xattr" is set to "dir".
> >
> > If "zfs set xattr=dir <volume>" is done before any user namespace
> > extended attributes are created for files via extattr(2), I think
> > everything makes sense.
> > --> There is one set of extended attributes that are visible through
> >       both extattr(2) and named_attribute(7).
> >
> > However, if extattr(2) is used to create user namespace extended
> > attributes when "xattr=sa" and then "xattr" is set to "dir", these
> > extended attributes are only visible to extattr(2) and not
> > named_attribute(7).
> > --> I will note that you can use tar(1) to copy the files and then the
> >      extended attributes become visible to named_attribute(7).
> > I do not see any way to avoid this, but it should at least be documented.
> >
> > So, where do you think I should document this?
> > - I could put it in named_attribute(7) as an additional case where
> >   the two extended attribute system call mechanisms cannot be
> >   used. (I was hesitant, since this is ZFS specific).
> > Does this sound ok, or is there somewhere better to put it?
> > (zfsprops(7) is another possibility, since it already documents
> > "sa" and "dir" values for the "xattr" property.)
>
> I do not see why not put it to named_attribute(7) page.  We do not have a
> ban on adding important fs-specific notes in the generic documentation.
> More, I think it is a proper place to document the details instead of
> spreading them into corners.
>
> BTW, would you consider adding named attrs support to tmpfs?
> I believe it is useful for tmpfs to be on par with the union of
> all features of our local filesystems.
I'll take a look at tmpfs someday. Probably not in time for 15.0.

Thanks for the comments, rick

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