Terry Lambert wrote:
> I was still grumpy about the change, but that at least was
> enough to mollify me into not objecting loudly and persitantly
> up to the import.
> Let me get this straight, though: _now_ you are saying that
> the system wide defaults and account template defaults will
> be whatever the tcsh maintainers say they are, and that any
> changes that the tcsh maintainers make with instantly and
> magically be imported into FreeBSD?
> I think there are a few logic flaws in your plan to have
> people submit their gripes about the defaults to the tcsh
> 1) They set their defaults the way they like them, and
> are unlikely to change.
> 2) A lot of the people who shut up did so on the premise
> that the defaults would cause tcsh to behave like csh
> when invoked with that name, and that it was the tcsh
> users, NOT the csh users, who would have to change
> away from the system defaults to get their desired
> 3) FreeBSD does not seem to track tcsh changes quickly
> or religiously enough for a lobbying effort to really
> be effective.
> While we may be stuck with this bait-and-switch "upgrade", I
> think his complaints are not co easily addressed. Certainly,
> the "exec" complaint remains valid, in any case: it's a bug
> that csh didn't have.
Terry, first things first, or is it last things first... I had issued myself a boot
to the head because I had simply forgotten to
background the startx and issue a logout [been so long since i've done things this
way, blah blah blah, boot to the head], This was
the second message in this thread, and I asked people to disregard my initial post
because of this, shortly after sending the
initial message. Since then, this has taken a life of it's own.
After reading the ensuing posts, I do have to say that although I don't agree with a
lot of the posts against adding more
defacto-standard shells to the base distribution [remember the thread about a month
ago], I at least now understand one of the base
arguments behind the arguments against. I'm not trying to revive that topic, I'm just
saying I see what was behind some of the
arguments in that thread now.
Anyhow, I have other things on my mind right now, such as why installworld is
expecting a user named 'bind'...
ET has one helluva sense of humor!
He's always anal-probing right-wing schizos!
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