Thus spake Tim Robbins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 01:27:43PM +0100, Alexander Leidinger wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, 19 Nov 2002 10:27:00 -0800
> > David Schultz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > > > > I'm concerned about the used character: "-r" is similiar to "-R"
> > > > 
> > > > Yes, `-r' would be a very poor choice for the reason you state.
> > > 
> > > Agreed, but the precedent has already been set by touch(1) and
> > > truncate(1).  If we're going to get it wrong some of the time, we
> > > might as well be consistent about it.
> > 
> > When we don't look at the fact that neither touch nor truncate operate
> > recursivly... what about changing touch and truncate to allow the
> > proposed -c (or -i) too and mark -r as deprecated (if it isn't covered
> > by a standard)?
> 
> I'd really rather that we didn't change this at all, even if it seems
> "inconsistent". Changing it would just lead to more confusion.
> 
> I am also against adding new options to chown to copy ownership from
> existing files.
> 
> Copy ownership:       chown `stat -f%Su file1` file2
> Copy group:   chgrp `stat -f%Sg file1` file2
> Copy both:    chown `stat -f%Su:%Sg file1` file2
> 
> These could easily be made into shell functions or whatever...

Admittedly it *is* creeping featurism, but there's already
creeping featurism all over the place if you're going to be that
strict about it.  You might as well reimplement ls(1) as a shell
script and remove 30 of its 33 documented options.  I think -r is
a specific case that happens to be useful and convenient for
chown.  Most of this discussion has been bogged down in the choice
of option name, which is really silly.

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