Joe Marcus Clarke wrote:

On Sat, 2003-01-18 at 15:20, Scott Long wrote:

>Hiten Pandya wrote:
>
>
>>On Fri, Jan 17, 2003 at 04:39:42PM -0700, Scott Long wrote the words


>>in effect of:
>>
>>
>>>Craig Rodrigues wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>On Fri, Jan 17, 2003 at 10:26:10AM -0800, Will Andrews wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Of course, these things can be fixed.  But I consider this change
>>>>>gratuitous and it breaks standard compatability rules: deprecate
>>>>>for one major version and remove in the second.  I haven't seen
>>>>>any reason why this couldn't be added to vm/vm_param.h:
>>>>>
>>>>>#define VM_METER VM_TOTAL
>>>>>
>>>>>for compatability purposes.  This change is way too sudden in an
>>>>>external API (if it's supposed to be internal, then protect it
>>>>>with an #ifdef _KERNEL already!).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>How about this then:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Index: vm_param.h
>>
>>===================================================================
>>
>>>>RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/vm/vm_param.h,v
>>>>retrieving revision 1.16
>>>>diff -u -r1.16 vm_param.h
>>>>--- vm_param.h	2003/01/11 07:29:46	1.16
>>>>+++ vm_param.h	2003/01/17 23:25:52
>>>>@@ -89,6 +89,8 @@
>>>>#define VM_SWAPPING_ENABLED	11	/* swapping enabled */
>>>>#define	VM_MAXID		12	/* number of valid vm

ids */

>>>>+#define VM_METER	VM_TOTAL /* backwards compatibility, struct

vmmeter

>>>>*/
>>>>+
>>>>#define CTL_VM_NAMES { \
>>>>	{ 0, 0 }, \
>>>>	{ "vmtotal", CTLTYPE_STRUCT }, \
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>The only place where VM_METER is used in this directory was in
>>
>>vm_meter.c:
>>
>>>>  240 SYSCTL_PROC(_vm, VM_METER, vmmeter,

CTLTYPE_OPAQUE|CTLFLAG_RD,

>>>>  241     0, sizeof(struct vmtotal), vmtotal, "S,vmtotal",
>>>>  242     "System virtual memory statistics");
>>>>
>>>>This changed to:
>>>>
>>>>  240 SYSCTL_PROC(_vm, VM_TOTAL, vmtotal,

CTLTYPE_OPAQUE|CTLFLAG_RD,

>>>>  241     0, sizeof(struct vmtotal), vmtotal, "S,vmtotal",
>>>>  242     "System virtual memory statistics");
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>This is ugly and only further perpetuates what appears to be a
>>>gratuitous API
>>>change.  Let's wait to hear from the submitter (Hiten) and

committer

>>>(Matt) to
>>>see why this was needed in the first place.
>>>
>>>Hiten?  Matt?
>>
>>
>>The change was made, because VM_METER was a bogus name for what it

did.

>>It returned struct vmtotal, but we named it VM_METER.  Infact, I

tried

>>to push this change some long time ago, but there were complications
>>(people busy etc...).
>>
>>I think applicatins to should be changed to use VM_TOTAL, instead of
>>VM_METER, because that's the correct name.  This is the same issue

with

>>the KMEM_METER define, which will be resolved once I get around to

it.

>>I sent this change to Matt first, to check if it was right, since he

is

>>the VM guru and whatnot.  Also, the change was made quite a while

ago.

>>Before we entered the freeze, IIRC.  IMHO, backing it out will just

make

>>more and more apps use it, and it will be totally sad -- but hey, I

am

>>not Release Engineer, so final decision is up to you.
>>
>>Cheers.
>>
>>P.S. Apologies for taking long to reply, I was out party-ing. :^)
>>
>>--
>>Hiten Pandya ([EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED])
>>http://www.unixdaemons.com/~hiten/
>
>
>Ok, I agree that the naming could cause confusion since there is a
>vmmeter struct and a vmtotal struct.  However, the Release Engineering
>policy that was set out at the start of RELENG_5_0 is that public API
>changes need review.  I'm not saying that those reviews won't be
>approved, but we want to keep the pain involved in 5.0->5.1 as low
>as possible.  This is causing pain with several high-profile ports.
>
>In my opinion, the inconsistency in VM_METER was annoying, but
>not enough to justify breaking an interface that has been existence
>since _1994_.  Dude, that is _9_ years.  If you'd like the name to
>change, lets hold of for RELENG_5 to happen.  Please back out the
>name change.


Scott, the API change does not exist in RELENG_5_0.  This change only
went into HEAD.

Joe


>Scott
I'm fully aware of that. As I state in the previous email, I'd like to see
5.0->5.1 happen as smoothly as possible. For background, go re-read
my email to developers@ when the RELENG_5_0 branch happened.

Also, it's common practice to deprecate public interfaces for a period of time
before removing them. Hiten's change doesn't do that either.

Scott


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