Gang,
        I suspect that my position has been expressed
        adequately.

        Further discussion might become divisive, but
        a decision that incurs the overhead of performance
        or a rebuild on the default user base seems
        wrong (JUST MY OPINION.)  It took ALOT of WORK
        (person years) to make FreeBSD perform as well
        as it does.

        BOTH the add-on crew and the general user base can
        have the performance and feature set without
        rebuilding, but the decision was apparently made
        to impose the cost of performance or rebuild and
        binary maintenance on the default user base.

        It makes more sense to have appropriately
        upgraded the system (by the NSS project) to avoid
        the performance hit by others and also provide
        the feature set.  Apparently (I haven't fully
        analysed this) implementing the dlopen stuff for
        non-dynamic programs would have helped to mitigate
        this issue.  (It might have put more burden on the
        NSS/PAM/whatever addon projects, but those are
        indeed addons that shouldn't take ANYTHING away
        from the rest of the project.)

        I am suggesting that the NSS crew and those who
        are concerned about performance can BOTH have
        the results that they wish for.

        'All or nothing' creates divisiveness, and in these
        discussions it is TOO EASY to fall into that trap.
        I am not suggesting the loss of the new NSS stuff,
        but also suggest that ANY loss of performance when
        it can be avoided, is unwise.

        My opinion is known, and hopefully the loss of
        hard earned performance with person-years of work
        won't happen as time goes on.  A little loss isn't
        that bad, but how much loss is too much loss (esp when
        not necessary?)

        <EOT>
        John
        
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