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On Thu, 19 Jun 2025 at 14:28, Jan Beich <jbe...@freebsd.org> wrote:
>
> Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez <paag...@gmail.com> writes:
>
> > I'm mainly on x11 with occasional visits to wayland, as Dmitry, to
> > "see what it does", or maybe, to be more precise, to see if I can
> > avoid having to compile emacs-devel from the ports to get it running
> > on x11. An alternative would be to include emacs-devel-x and
> > emacs-devel-pgtk separately in the pkg repositories...
>
> If something practical doesn't work, please, document in
> https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=268386
>
> GTK (unlike XAW et al.) isn't the most stable GUI for Emacs e.g.,
>
>   $ emacs --daemon
>   Warning: due to a long standing Gtk+ bug
>   https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gtk/issues/221
>   Emacs might crash when run in daemon mode and the X11 connection is 
> unexpectedly lost.
>   Using an Emacs configured with --with-x-toolkit=lucid does not have this 
> problem.
>   [...]

Never bumped on this one in +30 years of use. I could say "not my use case" ;-)
GTK Emacs supports things like placing and resizing the Emacs window
programmatically and that can't be done with PGTK Emacs (on Wayland).
I value that more. Having to place the Emacs window manually is
(politely speaking) "a boring extra".

> I've frequently bumped into the issue on X11 when editing xorg.conf
> (e.g., test compton vs. TearFree) or updating xf86-* drivers thus needed
> to restart Xorg. It's less of a concern on Wayland because most
> compositors support live config updates and don't use xf86-* at all.

Then I'm lucky enough that I my HW is old and I don't need to tweak
it. Or when I've needed to, I decided a reboot was worth it.

Best, /PA

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