On Wed, Apr 24, 2002 at 09:06:55AM +0930, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote:
> I think the issue here is that individuals make this kind of decision.
> We need a broader consensus for this kind of change.  As Jochem points
> out, only 3 people were involved in the decision, all of them people
> with security profiles which weren't affected by this change.

What, he should have gotten 30 reviewers?  I think what is happening
here is exactly what should happen: it seems like a good idea to one
guy; he implements it.  He shows it to a few more folks; they think it
is a good idea, too.  It gets committed, and the majority of people
either don't notice it or believe it is a good feature.

But the majority doesn't rule.

The feature sits in the tree and maybe people run into problems with
it.  If so, it gets fine tuned or backed out.  I think this is what is
supposed to happen.


For my part, I would like to see the change backed out and rethought.
I like having the X server not doing TCP by default, but this change
loses because:

   = It breaks existing configurations with no warning.
   = The option is in the wrong place (startx) and there is apparently
     no way to override the default.

I think it would be better to just put `-nolisten tcp' in
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/xserverrc for new installations only.  Then
the system administrator could easily override it for all users; and
at least a user can override it for herself.

Disclosure: I'm unhappy that after upgrading my laptop yesterday, I
found I couldn't run `x2x', and had to restart my X session to remedy
the problem.  All my X traffic uses IPsec --- there's no need to bring
up SSH.

Cheers,
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