Marcel Moolenaar wrote:
On Sun, Jun 06, 2004 at 03:46:44PM -0600, Scott Long wrote:
As for alpha, we don't even seem to be able to degrade it to tier 2 without losing face. kris@ has already stopped package builds for it for his own sake.
It's not that there is face to loose on alpha, it's that every time I announce that alpha is going to be killed unless issues X, Y, and Z are fixed, someone comes along and fixes X, part of Y, and promises to fix Z.
I don't read anything I haven't read before. People have made promises before and good intentions notwithstanding, you cannot keep a project hostage this way. Degrade alpha and only promote it after people have actually demonstrated that alpha is tier 1 material after all.
At this point, I'm going to advocate that Alpha be dropped from Tier-1 status for 5.3 and 5-STABLE and no longer be a blocking item for releases.
Just *do* it. You've been advocating for way too long.
There are always people with good intentions, and they often want to
find some way to help. I appreciate this very much and I don't want
to turn them away. We also can't make a snap decision in an afternoon
and risk missing people who have better things to do on their weekends/holidays than track FreeBSD mail =-) But yes, Alpha has been
languishing for too long. I'll say it in a loud voice now:
This is the last call for Alpha. It cannot maintain minimum tier-1 requirements and it will be demoted for 5.3. Unless you currently
have access to a representative selection of hardware, the knowledge
to track down platform-specific issues, the willingness to handle the
current outstanding issues, and the time to do it for the next 18
months, please accept my regrets on it. Again, while I appreciate people
who can pick away at some of the lesser issues or want to learn the
bigger things, we need a 100% maintenance and development solution.
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