Victor Sudakov wrote:
> Patrick M. Hausen wrote:
> > 
> > > Am 23.03.2020 um 06:00 schrieb Victor Sudakov <[email protected]>:
> > > I've noticed that a newly created gre0 interface has the expected "mtu 
> > > 1476"
> > > value, but a newly created gif0 interface has "mtu 1280", why would the
> > > default be so low?
> > 
> > gif is frequently used as the innermost encapsulation like in gif tunnel
> > across host mode IPsec. Then there might be PPPoE, too. Possibly a
> > VLAN tag ...
> 
> Please correct me if I'm wrong:
> 
> - ESP overhead - 40 bytes
> - UDP encapsulation of ESP (udp/4500): 8 bytes
> - PPPoE overhead - 8 bytes (?)
> - A VLAN tag just increases the max frame size, it does not reduce the IP MTU.
> 
> So we could keep the safe default for gif(4) at 1500-40-8-8=1444 bytes.
> OK, at 1400 as for if_ipsec. But not at 1280!

I should probably have counted the 20 bytes of the additional IP header
which results in 1500-40-8-8-20=1424.

So 1400 is really safe.

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Victor Sudakov,  VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN
2:5005/49@fidonet http://vas.tomsk.ru/

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