On 07/04/14 14:23, Koop Mast wrote:
On 4-7-2014 22:49, Kevin Oberman wrote:
On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 12:03 PM, Patrick Powell <[email protected]>
wrote:
On 07/04/14 09:56, Kevin Oberman wrote:
On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 9:14 AM, Patrick Powell <[email protected]>
wrote:
I have run into a problem trying to recompile the KDE4 packages with
WITHOUT_NEW_XORG=YES.
>From the CHANGES file:
20140416:
AFFECTS: users of x11/xorg graphics/dri graphics/libGL and
related ports
AUTHOR: [email protected]
The default xorg version has been switched on FreeBSD 10-STABLE and
FreeBSD 9-STABLE.
To upgrade graphics/libGL, graphics/dri and related MESA ports,
it is
necessary to first remove the old versions of those ports.
No special upgrade procedure is needed for xorg ports but it is
necessary to recompile all xorg drivers (xf86-*) and other ports
that
depend on the xserver version, including
emulators/virtualbox-ose-additions. Portrevisions have been bumped
where needed, but users of drivers not in the ports tree will
need to
recompile those.
If it is important to stay on the old versions, it is possible to
specify WITHOUT_NEW_XORG= in /etc/make.conf to get the old xorg
distribution.
My make.conf file:
WITH_PKGNG=yes
WITHOUT_NEW_XORG=yes
I did portsnap fetch update, and then did:
#> cd /usr/ports/x11/kde4
#> make missing >/tmp/missing_files
I massaged the /tmp/missing_files to use pkg to try to download
a package if it was in the repository. If they were not, I then
tried to use 'make BATCH=YES install' to compile and install the port.
Unfortunately, many ports have been updated with calls to the
Mesa API
that do not exist in the WITHOUT_NEW_XORG version of Mesa. As a
result, you
can no longer build/run recent version of those ports
WITHOUT_NEW_XORG. KDE
is probably the bast known of these.
That leaves two options:
1. Move to the new Xorg versions (which may not support some older
hardware)
2. Use an old (and possibly vulnerable) version of KDE
The Xorg and KDE folks simply don't provide any other options that
I am
aware of.
--
R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer, Retired
E-mail: [email protected]
OK, then could they please update the CHANGES file and state that?
And/or
put a warning in the UPDATING or CHANGES ports file:
WITHOUT_NEW_XORG option not supported
I appreciate the problems, I was just hoping that there was a trivial
solution to them...
I have no commit bit, but perhaps someone who does will put a note in
CHANGES. I certainly think it would be a good idea.
This discussion begs the question of why won't WITH_NEW_XORG work for
you?
I am aware of some pretty old hardware that simply has no support in
recent
Xorg servers, but these are pretty old by now. And, as time passes,
the bit
rot will make more and more things fail with the old code.
I am far from an X expert, but a post to x11@ of the failure you see
WITH_NEW_XORG including the Xorg.0.log, /etc/make.conf, /etc/src.conf
and
any Xorg.conf you are using might get things working (and might not).
x11@
is a far better place to ask any of the questions about X issues.
I should also recommend that, if you have not already tried, move your
Xorg.conf aside and let X try to configure itself. It is very rare to
require a full configuration these days. Most only need things for added
fonts and extra modules. The xorg.conf on my laptop is only about 27
lines
long and mostly added fonts.
ports/UPDATING states:
20140218:
AFFECTS: users of KDE SC 4
AUTHOR: [email protected]
KDE SC ports have been updated to 4.12.2. kdeadmin, kdenetwork, kdesdk,
and kdetoys ports have been split due to upstream changes.
KDE Workspace port has been updated to 4.11.6. It requires modern
Mesa libraries, provided by WITH_NEW_XORG knob. To update Xorg ports
to newer version follow instructions at
https://wiki.freebsd.org/Graphics
So it not possible anymore to run KDE4 with WITHOUT_NEW_XORG.
-Koop
Ahhh!!! I missed that.
If this is the case, then perhaps the default for generating the PKGNG
repository should be WITH_NEW_XORG?
Then we could use the PKGNG respository for KDE4 applications.
OR: we could have two repositories: one which uses WITHOUT_NEW_XORG and
has the old Xorg drivers and no KDE4 support and one with WITH_NEW_XORG
which has the new Xorg drivers and KDE4 support.
I think I read some discussion about this possibility but I can't recall
the outcome.
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