Torsten Zuehlsdorff wrote on 06/01/2016 11:07:
On 31.05.2016 15:59, Vincent Hoffman-Kazlauskas wrote:
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To be fair the support is last release + 2 years, supporting a minor
version for more than 2 years seems unreasonable, compare to say redhat
a major commercial vendor.
If you want to be fair: this is not true. This would be true, if 10.1,
10.2 or 10.3 for example were minor-updates. But they were not. The
"minor updates" needs installing thousands of patches, updating all your
jails and sometimes all your ports too. It sometimes throw you out of
your server, because an SSH-Update changed the config and no key will
work anymore. In the last years i encounter a number of such unpleasant
issues in such "minor updates".
Yes, there are issues with SSH config changes but I think they are not
intended and was made by human errors.
And if i calculate the time for such an "minor update" and hold it
against the time needed for a "major update" there is nearly no
difference. Same for occurred problems, needed changes, etc. There is
just no difference between an update from for example 9.2 to 9.3 or 9.3
to 10.0. At least its the same.
There is a main difference - if you upgraded from 9.2 to 9.3, you don't
need to recompile (reinstall) all ports, but if you upgraded from 9.3 to
10.x you need to reinstall all your packages and then remove old 9.x
libraries from the base system.
If I should count the number of problems with updates / upgrades, there
are few of them with base system upgrades from 6.x - 8.x to 9.x to 10.1
to 10.2 to 10.3 (yes we run machines originally installed as 6.x now
running 10.3 with many intermediate upgrades) but there are really many
of them with ports / packages. Ports are moving target and you need to
upgrade them more often because of security related fixes in newer versions.
So even if FreeBSD releases will have 5 years of security patches
support, our main work time will still be spent with upgrading packages
and solving problems with versions & config changes for each package.
Miroslav Lachman
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