On 10 Dec, 2017, at 10:11, Steve Kargl <[email protected]>
wrote:
On Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 01:21:13PM +0000, Matthew Seaman wrote:
Hence the current sendmail in base is neither fish nor fowl: way
overpowered for almost all installations, but with significant
limitations for a machine providing a full-blown mail service.
Personally I agree with his reasoning: unless the primary function of
your FreeBSD machine is to be an MTA, you really don't need any more
capability than to either deliver to a local mailbox, or forward all
e-mails to a smart host. Certainly you don't need anything capable of
receiving incoming e-mails.
I disagree. FreeBSd used to pride itself on being a complete operating
system oout-of-the-box. Lately, a smaller number of developers are
moving FreeBSD to being a kernel with a bunch of add-on software.
dma(1) does not support a .forward file and by extension vacation(1).
Without .forward, then those of use who use procmail(1) (subject of
this email thread) in .forward and by extension spamassisin are
hosed.
Chapter 27 of the FreeBSD Handbook would need to be rewritten before
sendmail can be removed. It is assumed that sendmail is installed
with base.
Hi Steve,
I agree with you about the merits of FreeBSD providing a complete system
out-of-the-box. But of all the mail servers out there, sendmail is the most
archaic and arcane. Sendmail is used primarily by people who are intimately
familiar with it over a long history, and simply isn’t a great choice for
people getting into mail servers. I’d rather see sendmail installable
through ports, and replaced in base with a better solution. Sendmail is too
difficult to configure correctly; we should keep it trivial to install
(i.e. ports) for those who prefer it, but it shouldn’t be our primary
recommendation for users looking for a new MTA.
DMA is a phenomenal program and is totally sufficient for a large
percentage of our user-base. I wasn’t aware of the lack of .forward
support, and I completely agree that that’s a very detrimental omission.
# Adam
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Adam Weinberger
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