> On 4. Aug 2020, at 20:43, Steve Wills <swi...@freebsd.org> wrote:
> 
> 
> We are planning to deprecate use of portsnap in ports.
> 
> The reasons are as follows (in no particular order):
> 
> * Portsnap doesn't support quarterly branches, even years after quarterly 
> branches were created and changed to the default for non-HEAD packages.
> 
> * Portsnap doesn't seem to save disk space compared to svn or git, if you 
> count the metadata (stored in /var/db/portsnap by default) and you do an 
> apples-to-apples comparison of svn or git without history and ignoring 
> possible ZFS compression. That is, you use "svn export" or git "clone --depth 
> 1", you see this disk usage:
> 
>    342M    svnexport
>    426M    git
>    477M    portsnap
> 
> * Portsnap also doesn't work offline which git does. With git, you can also 
> easily add the history by running "git pull --unshallow"
> 
> * This migration away from portsnap fits well with the planned migration to 
> git.
> 
> * Also based on the patches we've seen in Bugzilla for some time, usage of 
> portsnap causes folks to too easily accidentally submit patches to Bugzilla 
> which don't apply easily.
> 
> * Since portsnap doesn't support quarterly branches, it often causes users to 
> build on the wrong branch or end up with mismatched packages. That is, they 
> install packages from quarterly via pkg, then want to customize so run 
> portsnap and build from head, which can cause problems, as we often see. Even 
> when this doesn't happen, it adds to troubleshooting to verify that it didn't.
> 
> We are aware people have gotten used to portsnap, but believe:
> 
> * People should be able to easily use svnlite in base or git from pkgs. (Very 
> few people seem to actually use WITHOUT_SVNLITE).
> 
> * There is also the possibility of falling back to fetching a tar or zip from 
> https://cgit-beta.freebsd.org/ports/ although this does make updating harder.
> 
> How it will be done, in order:
> 
> * Update poudriere to use svn by default. This is already done:
> 
>  https://github.com/freebsd/poudriere/pull/764
> https://github.com/freebsd/poudriere/commit/bd68f30654e2a8e965fbdc09aad238c8bf5cdc10
> 
> * Update docs not to mention portsnap. This is already in progress:
> 
>  https://reviews.freebsd.org/D25800
>  https://reviews.freebsd.org/D25801
>  https://reviews.freebsd.org/D25803
>  https://reviews.freebsd.org/D25805
>  https://reviews.freebsd.org/D25808
>  https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/363798
> 
>  Many thanks to the folks who have worked and are working on this!
> 
> * Make WITHOUT_PORTSNAP default in base. Currently not certain when this will 
> happen. May not happen before 13.0, but hopefully it will.
> 
> * Eventually, portsnap servers will see low enough usage they can be disabled.
> 
> We welcome any constructive feedback. All input would be heard, and if the 
> plans need to be amended, we will come back to you with the amended plan in a 
> couple of weeks. This process will take some time and hopefully won't be too 
> disruptive to anyone's usual workflow.

What will be the process to bootstrap git?

Thanks


> 
> Steve (with portmgr@ hat)
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