Hey Mr. Stone, Is it possible to see your backup and recovery scripts? You
seem to know what your talking about. I'm sure I could learn something I
haven't seen before or an administrator trick. :)

Thanks.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jack L. Stone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "R. Zoontjens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD. ORG"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 7:46 AM
Subject: RE: restore question


> At 04:32 PM 11.15.2002 +0100, R. Zoontjens wrote:
> >
> >Jack L. Stone wrote,
> >
> >> Hard disks, at least IDEs are really inexpensive. Why not just keep a
> >> second or third HD on your machine(s) to do backups.....??
> >
> >Environmental hazard... like fire e.g. or the server motherboard burns
out,
> >water damage, etc...
> >I can take tapes to another location. I do not have the money to afford a
> >hot-site :>
> >
> >Don't want my backups near something like this:
> >http://www.radecom.nl/images/Fire.jpg
> >
> >Like the bible of backup/recovery says (Unix backup & recovery -- by
Curtis
> >Preston):
> >
> >1. Define (un)acceptable loss
> >2. Back up everything
> >3. Organize your backups
> >--> 4. Protect against disasters
> >5. Document
> >6. test,test,test
> >
>
> While that may have been the bible, common sense should apply and also
> times change. Last time I looked Tape drives and tapes were very
expensive.
> HDs have become cheap, but until a year or so ago, they were not so cheap.
> This changes the dynamics while that "bible" remains static....
>
> One can buy a 80GB HD for less than $100.00. A 40GB for about $70.00. How
> much do tape drives & tapes cost..??? I do have tape for quick offsite
> removal..... BUT, that tape is NOT as current as having a HD backup every
> day or even several times a day. We're not talking about disaster programs
> here, but backups and restores expeditiously.
>
> Furthermore, I did not say one shouldn't use tapes too if they choose to.
> Nor did I say I didn't keep backups offsite. One can never have too many
> backups. But, if I want my CURRENT data to be backed up should my main HD
> suddenly crash, I don't want to go looking for a tape backup to restore
> that takes a long time and is not nearly as current.
>
> Moreover, take a look, now there are accessories that are like drawers
that
> hold your HD so they slip right in and out. Even have a handle on the
> front. What is to stop one from pulling out a HD from the backup server
> that has the server backups...????
>
> If one doesn't have the budget for extra HDs, then other methods must be
> used obviously....
>
> Common sense + backup/restore program + budget = solution (probably left
> something out of that quick equation).
>
> Best regards,
> Jack L. Stone,
> Administrator
>
> SageOne Net
> http://www.sage-one.net
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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