--- Vladimir Tsvetkov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > This is obviously a trick question, because
> real
> > programmers don't use IDEs. Case Closed.
>
> I'm not a real programmer, but UNIX is a great
> developer environment.
> It's a tool based environment.
> Small tools, strong cohesion in what they are
> designed for, easy ways
> to combine them to form more complex tasks.
> Good documentation too.
> Actually you don't need anything else, you
> don't need a colourfull IDE. But...
> Maybe only few, really exceptional people can
> benefit and grok the
> power of this kind of environments.
> To me the ideal "IDE" is actually a toolkit:
> - Source Editor, preferably with a object
> browser or other kind of a
> source browser. An autocomplete functionallity
> could increase
> productivity too - this could increase quality
> if we measure quality
> of code by the low number of syntax mistakes,
> but this could also be a
> threat to quality letting the programmer write
> without reading
> carefully what is written - code bloating.
> - Compiler with a debugger. We must discuss
> about the pros. and cons.
> of a grafic debugger versus a text-mode
> debugger. The things are
> getting really messy when it comes up to
> debugging multithreading code
> and I really don't know what is the ultimate
> tool for this task.
> - A build tool. Ant or make will suffice.
> - Source control tools. CVS, SVN etc.
> - Documentation tools. POD, Doxygen, Javadoc or
> something else.
> - Unit testing framework. This is not always a
> tool. This could be a
> language extension, or a testing API.
> - Other tools.
>
> You don't need to put everything together in a
> single swissknife-tool,
> but this could be convenient in some cases.
>
> IDE vs. Toolbased Environments ???
>
> Which is more productive and how to measure
> productiveness?
>
> Best Regards,
> Vladimir Tsvetkov
Tools, schmools. vi and cc work for me.
I do admit that I wish someone would get make to
accept spaces instead of the (damn) tab. I think
its time for that :)
DT
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