On Wed, Feb 08, 2006 at 04:49:47PM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On 2/8/06, Gary Kline <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Wed, Feb 08, 2006 at 08:29:21PM +0100, Kristian Vaaf wrote:
> > > Again with my script requests, this time I'm wondering if anybody
> > > has ever felt like writing a shell script that makes it easy to write
> > > rhymes,
> > > poems or just make up funny lines.
>
> As below, but textproc/dadadodo is about it so
> far as meaningfulness in computer generated
> text can get.
>
> >
> > This may dovetail into something I was actively working on
> > several years ago: a C/C++ program that took unmetered text
> > as input and output N-syllabic lines as output.
> >
> . . .
>
> Quite the task, that. Reading Spenser, Shakespeare,
> and older metrical and rhyming poetry can give you
> an indication of how difficult even the bland, mechanical
> regurgiation of poetry can be:
> Most words ending in -ed have one more syllable than
> we usually enunciate.
> Room and Rome can rhyme.
> Wawain, Gawain, Gawaine are exactly the same person.
>
> Most of this can be scripted around, double entries in
> the syllabary for possible pronunciations and known
> obscure rhymes, etc. Still leaves no way to innovate
> structure that's not coded in.
> Anyway, this gets into AI, and as jwz points out, most of
> modern AI research is fairly intellectually dishonest.
>
Yeh, given the way the English has stolen, borrowed
words from Everywhere--and still is--it just makes
sense to spend a few years taking poetry classes
than invest decades trying to invent an AI tool.
Poetry, creativity, philosophy (for starters) are
just a few areas where we poor humans still beat
any program. Thanks the gods.
gary
PS: among my Jottings stuff I dreamed up something
like: "the reign of depression" ... . AI?
Foo!
>
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Gary Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.thought.org Public service Unix
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