On Mon, 2002-12-23 at 22:57, Stephen Hovey wrote:
> Ive used such utilities in the past..
> 

Same here. Various border-penetration tools and passwd crackers that run
fortnightly, are used by my team at work. I don't disagree with their
existence, nor stated terms of usage. 

The poster has already answered the followup question in my original
reply.., which was very good of him.

Regards,

Stacey


> Basically, the only way a legit admin can secure things, is if they have
> access to the same tech the bad guys use.. otherwise they can never be
> really certain they have things shored up.
> On Mon, 23 Dec 2002, paul beard wrote:
> 
> > Stacey Roberts wrote:
> > 
> > > 
> > > Why would you want to do this? Personally, I figure its prudent to ask.
> > > 
> > It does have some legitimate uses, according to this page ( 
> > http://www.atstake.com/research/lc/ ):
> > 
> > > Consider that at one of the largest technology companies, where
> > > policy required that passwords exceed 8 characters, mix cases,
> > > and include numbers or symbols...
> > > 
> > > * L0phtCrack obtained 18% of the passwords in 10 minutes 
> > > * 90% of the passwords were recovered within 48 hours on a Pentium
> > > II/300 
> > > * The Administrator and most Domain Admin passwords were
> > > cracked
> > > 
> > > It doesn't have to be this way. Crack-resistant passwords are
> > > achievable and practical. But password auditing is the only
> > > sure way to identify user accounts with weak passwords. LC4
> > > offers an easy and adaptable way to address this threat and
> > > find vulnerable passwords.
> > 
> > > Take it from a 1998 Microsoft security bulletin:
> > > 
> > > "consider evaluating a tool such as L0phtcrack 2.0 for
> > > assisting in checking the quality of user passwords."
> > 
> > 
> > 
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