On 3/25/06, Kevin Kinsey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Tim wrote:
>
> > Why couldn't you guys make a install easy instead of this
> > and that, ok I am a newbie and it should be easy, I have
> > installed Ubuntu, it was like a dream, smooth as silk,
> > Fedora pretty much the same FreeBSD, its a nitemare
> > if you have never done it, I am now reloading windows
> > and then putting back Ubuntu, unless someone over
> > there can make it simple even for me.
> >
> >
> > Tim Stevens
> >
>
> 1.  Troll, I command thee, begone!  :-D
>
> 2.  "FreeBSD *is* user-friendly; it's just picky about
> who those friends are...."  (might read that as "newbs
> are expected to RTF*M like the rest of us....") ;-)
>
> Seriously, Tim, this is an issue that's *not* going to
> be resolved any time soon.  There are plenty of
> reasons why, and some of them are good (not to
> mention, in the words of the immortal JKH, 'libncurses
> makes the baby Jesus cry') and some aren't.
>
> If you want FreeBSD with a GUI installer and KDE (I
> don't, necessarily),  head on over to www.desktopbsd.org.
> Some of us are O.K. with our "stone knives and bearskins",
> as long as they work.  As for you, install what you want.
> That's what "free", as in "FreeBSD", is really about.
Some of us are not only "ok" with the "stone knives and bearskins"
FreeBSD offers. Some of us actually would discard FreeBSD if it had a
pretty GUI-installer. Some of us actually know why we need FreeBSD,
and know why a gui any more "friendly" than ncurses would be a bad
thing for FreeBSD.
Some of us would actually like to be able to live without any GUI. Ever again.
>
> My $0.02, and I'm out of change on this one....
>
> Kevin Kinsey
>
> *Friendly!  Read the **friendly** manual!!
>
> P.S. Oh, golly; I forgot the part about "become a committer
> and fix it yourself."  But, that's really not necessary, I
> don't think....
>
> P.P.S.  Anyone got a procmail recipe for sysinstall flames?
>
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