On 2006-06-07 20:20, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> A brief:
>
> How to use "envelope from" provided that I have a mailbox on ISP.
>
> A full explanation:
>
> My computer has no static IP-address, nor DNS-name in Internet.
> Internally, it has static name "localhost" and static IP-address 127.0.0.1.
>
> So, I have a mail address "[EMAIL PROTECTED]".
> But I cannot send a mail to the world using this address in "envelope from"
> because of
> 1) Internet MTAs cancel mail whith such an address in "envelope from";
> 2) such an address is useless to recipient.
>
> My address in the world is "[EMAIL PROTECTED]".  So, I make my MUA to send a
> letter using a command setting "envelope from" to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]".  (like
> sendmail -f [EMAIL PROTECTED] for sendmail, see "X-Authentication-Warning" in
> the header of this mail) But this way is bad for local purposes: my
> MTA's diagnostic messages are sent trough internet or lost at all,
> e. g. when my ADSL is in down.  (Moreover, my letters sent to other
> local users have non-local "envelope from" address. Then local mail
> begin to go through external MTA.)
>
> What to do in such a situation?

I use mutt, which has an option to set the envelope-from address:

    set envelope_from=yes    # set the envelope-from address from From:

For the rest of the programs, like mail(1), my Sendmail setup sets
envelope-from to one of my valid outside-world addresses.  This is
accomplished with the following in my `sendmail.mc' file:

    dnl Trusted users, who are allowed to change their envelope-from address
    dnl without generating a warning in the message header, are listed, one per
    dnl line, in `sendmail.ct'.
    define(`confCT_FILE', `-o /etc/mail/sendmail.ct')
    FEATURE(`use_cw_file')dnl

    dnl Allow mail routing exceptions through a mailer table.
    FEATURE(`mailertable', `hash /etc/mail/mailertable')

    dnl Address masquerading.
    dnl
    dnl Making sure that all email that passes through my desktop's Sendmail
    dnl installation is masqueraded as coming from `gothmog.pc', even if its 
original
    dnl address is something slightly different (i.e. `ftp.pc' or `mail.pc'), is
    dnl ok here.  It ensures that address rewriting and translation through
    dnl `genericstable' will also work for all `*.pc' host names.
    dnl
    dnl To make sure that remote hosts don't get a MAIL FROM address from a
    dnl hostname that doesn't resolve, envelope addresses are masqueraded too, 
and
    dnl then get rewritten by `genericstable' to real-world addresses,
    dnl i.e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]'.
    MASQUERADE_AS(`gothmog.pc')
    FEATURE(`masquerade_entire_domain')
    FEATURE(`masquerade_envelope')

    dnl Rewriting the envelope-from address of all outgoing messages through a
    dnl `genericstable' lookup, ensures that envelope-from addresses seen by 
relay
    dnl hosts are real, i.e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]' instead of the default
    dnl envelope-from of [EMAIL PROTECTED]' that Sendmail would use.  This is
    dnl required some times, to avoid getting bounces for messages from ISP mail
    dnl relays that are misconfigured or are too strict about what can appear 
in a
    dnl MAIL FROM command.
    FEATURE(`genericstable', `hash -o /etc/mail/genericstable')
    GENERICS_DOMAIN(`gothmog.pc')
    FEATURE(`generics_entire_domain')

This looks like quite a mouthful of options, but it's not really that
difficult to read.  It's only big because of all the comments.

The file `/etc/mail/sendmail.ct' contains my username, because I trust
myself to use valid envelope-from addresses.  This turns off the
"X-Authentication-Warning" header which is so annoying for you too.

Then, in `/etc/mail/mailertable' I have an exception for my internal,
work-related email, and send it directly to the company's mail gateway:

    # Custom mail routing rules.  This is currently useful only
    # for routing work-related email through the VPN connection
    # to my company's mail relay.
    #
    foo.com                     smtp:mailgate.foo.com
    .foo.com                    smtp:mailgate.foo.com

Finally, in my `/etc/mail/genericstable' map, I rewrite the
envelope-from of all the rest of email messages, like this:

    # Outgoing email address rewriting.
    [EMAIL PROTECTED]           [EMAIL PROTECTED]
    [EMAIL PROTECTED]           [EMAIL PROTECTED]
    [EMAIL PROTECTED]           [EMAIL PROTECTED]

These options are, of course, just a suggestion.  You don't *HAVE* to
use a setup similar to mine.

- Giorgos

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