--- Boris Samorodov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Marc, > > > On Thu, 3 Aug 2006 18:30:08 -0300 (ADT) you wrote: > > > Okay, there has been alot of discussion on this in > the other thread, > > some of it tangent'd to the original, so, I'm > starting off a new > > thread as a sort of summary ... > > Great idea, but should be introduced with care... > > > I've been doing some thinking on it this > afternoon, and think I've > > figured out about the simpliest way of doing it > ... it still doesn't > > deal with "fakers" and such, but, IMHO, I don't > think that that is a > > *huge* problem that needs to be addressed ... some > might do it for a > > lark, but, overall, it just sounds like something > that is "more worth > > then its worth", so over time, it should > eventually balance out ... > > ...taking into consideration *why* do we want to do > the stats. *If* > we plan (and this is one of the goals of the > project) to have those > stats as a serious argument for a Big Business then > we *must* prove > that those numbers are not faked. Or even more > strict: that those > numbers can't (or even very, no VERY hard to) be > faked. > > It's useless (as a serious argument) if it can be > faked: imagine that > a virus (warm or else) is written to fake it. > > [Can't comment on the rest right now, thus skipped] > > > WBR > -- > Boris Samorodov (bsam) > Research Engineer, http://www.ipt.ru Telephone & > Internet SP > FreeBSD committer, http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power > To Serve > _______________________________________________ > email@example.com mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > Personally I don't think this stuff should be tracked in any centralized fashion. I don't particullarly like when our freedom to choose to do something is tracked or monitored; because it is no longer a freedom. Maybe that is just paranoia speaking. I think a much more productive goal is to get all the users that have unsupported hardware to write into the vendor that created it and ask them why they don't support a spawn of the OS that allowed what we call the internet to exist. Put this message on FreeBSD.org, get people in this list to do it, get on a soap box and scream it. I think giving them numbers of systems will just be ignored. But getting 1000 emails a day in multiple languages from around the world will get them thinking maybe its worth at least releasing the specs just to shut these people up. I know I would get sick of it, and would have to especially if I were a bossman. Why do I want to pay poeple to deal with the same questions every single day when they aren't asking me to necessarily program a driver for them. All they want is the specs so they can do it themselves. Code is proprietary in todays world unfortunatley, but knowing what registers and what values go into them to make a RAID card work shouldn't be. But alas maybe big brother thinks it is, I still remember getting my commodore 64 (I was in hghschool, it was already 15years old then...) and having the full schematic of how to build the thing in the instructions. What has this world come too. Lets piss off these vendors instead of driving ourselves nutz trying to collect usage data, thats what spammers are for... my too cents -brian _______________________________________________ firstname.lastname@example.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"