backyard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 

--- "E. Gad" 

> Svein Halvor Halvorsen 
> wrote: Subhro wrote:
> > yourself. However remember to cvsup your ports
> tree before you start
> > using it to get the required software. Refer to
> the handbook for
> > understanding how ports work.
> For most people portsnap would be a better way of
> updating one's ports
> tree. Firstly, it's in the base system and thus
> doesn't require any
> third party software. Secondly, most newbies find it
> easier to use.

as long as your remember to install it as a port
during the install or add it with sysinstall or
pkg_add. cvsup-nogui then doing a:

make update in /usr/src or /usr/ports will
automagically use the default examples and update
things. As long as your going from a 6.x base it will
continue on Rel_6.x. If you started with 5.x it will
continue to update 5.x. Ports will always update to
the latest and greatest as it uses a different tag. I
find this very easy, I'm also afraid of change. Though
portsnap is more secure because it uses encryption and
I've heard signs the updates. To each their own though
one way of the other updating your SRC and PORTS is an
important thing to learn how to do.

>  Svein Halvor
> Hmm porstnap seemed to have worked ok. I installed
> the portupgrade suite through pkg_add. 
>  Somethings still not happy. Because when  took a
> stab at installing:
>  nvidia-driver
>  nvidia-glx
>  xorg and compat 5 as a dependency for
> nvidia-driver/nvidia-glx
>  nvidia can't find something and I don't know what
> because the first part of the message scrolls of the
> screen- (remember I'm not in xorg yet)

if you don't have X yet then I don't think the nvidia
drivers will install because they are quite dependant
on X.

no X required here...
hit scroll lock and then PgUp and PgDn this will let
you view the scroll back buffer and see what you
cannot see. the up and down arrows will work too.

>  -What the newbie here has done so far to help
> itself-
>  Just as a guess-reinstalled linux_base because I
> remembered reading on a Just Some Guys 'Blog abut
> the same problem
>  thinking it couldn't hurt anything since I hadn't
> installed hardly much of anything-
>  cd /usr/ports/emulators/linux_base.
>  make deinstall
>  make clean
>  make install
>  Ran that for 15 minuts-it ran into some sort of 
>  "error 1!" (repeated 5 times)
>  Undaunted-re- did make etc.
>  Somethng about rpm something not found 
>  (cd'd into linux_bas-fc4)
>  ran make install clean-but it says it can't find
> the  ftp servers-
>  Any guesses what I'm doing wrong?

install archivers/rpm should fix that but it should
know to do it itself. Unless your stuck using that
particular dist of linux I would try to gentoo stage3
base. a chroot to the /compat/linux and you can use
their portage system to install and update linux apps
fairly easy. The reason I got away from linux in the
first place was the nightmare of updating it, but at
least Gentoo uses a "ports" system that makes it less
of a nightmare. Of course I am biased because I do run
Gentoo on my laptop and would want the emulation base
to be compatible if I package up native Gentoo apps to
my FreeBSD system.



Actually funy you say that I'd think using linux_base-gentoo-stage-3 would be 
"simpler" in someways for the Powers That be to make Linux Emulation seemless.
 -linux_base-gentoo-stage-3 install went smooth as silk-
 -the pkg_add xorg also seems to have gone ok (not sure why it had problems 
 I'll re-run portinstalls of the nvidia stuff.
 You might like Arch if you've been turned off by the way other distributions 
do things.- caveats: It has a bit of learning curve,  it uses fairly "bleeding 
edge" software, and quite a bit of work is more "community" developed than 
average (more so than say Fedora).  
 On the other hand  It use a ports like system(qpckge and aurbuild) and a 
pkg_add like system (packman)

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