# [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2003-01-14 12:01:08 +1000: > On Mon, 2003-01-13 at 20:52, Roman Neuhauser wrote: > > # [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 2003-01-13 09:38:58 +1000: > > > > This sounds like a different issue - my suggestion was for how to avoid > > > putting sendmail into the system when you build it. > > > > not really a different issue. the OP wanted to be able to [not] > > install Sendmail, Bind etc. during the initial system setup. that's > > impossible ATM. > > Correct. However, once you have built your system and carefully removed > the bits you don't want, you are likely to be quite unhappy for an > upgrade to go and put them back. If you have run your system for a > couple of years, then an "install" is really just upgrading versions. here, the keywords are "carefully removed the bits".
> > plus, replacing part of the base with a port might > > break your system. > > Making a typo in a configuration file, or deleting a library might break > your system too. The original question was not about ensuring the > integrity of a port. Breaking the system by leaving out part of the base > is a concern though. i was not talking about the port being broken per se. a perfectly fine port used in place of a base system component can break a box if additional configuration steps are not taken. > > > Admittedly, after a default install it's already there and you have to > > > go and remove it, so yes, there should be an installer option for it. > > > > and yes, that's what the OP wanted. > > And I agree. It would be much easier not to install things in the first > place. > > How much dependency is there still on these things within the base > system? What would break if someone with no *NIX experience installed > FreeBSD without Sendmail or BIND? Sendmail: no emails from periodic(8), possibly other breakage Bind: no harm at all as long as the resolver library is a separate package > > > If you need to start sendmail after DJB dnscache, you can disable it in > > > /etc/rc.conf and start it from a local script, no? > > > > yes. that means you must do more than you said originally, and what > > you said originally is not "exactly what you want". > > Are you suggesting that you should be able modify the default install > without modifiying the default configuration? That's a mighty fine > sentiment, but I can't see it happening. I'm saying that one should not be forced to hack the system by hand after replacing a part of it with a port. As it is now, you cannot e. g. install DJB's dnscache, put 127.0.0.1 in /etc/resolv.conf, and expect the base Sendmail would start without complaining. > Now, if the OP had asked "How do I prevent Sendmail from complaining > because it starts up before DJB dnscache?" then the whole scenario you > brought up would be related. However, he didn't, so I stand by my > assertion that this is a different issue, although you are correct that > what I suggested is not exactly what he wants. ok. :) however, I understood the OP's problem as "how can I make FreeBSD use Postfix to provide the mail delivery function", not "how do I replace files that are part of the base Sendmail with Postfix". > I have no intention of offending anyone, nor starting a flame war, so I > will now cease participation in this thread as it is getting off-topic. nobody's flaming anybody, but ok. -- If you cc me or remove the list(s) completely I'll most likely ignore your message. see http://www.eyrie.org./~eagle/faqs/questions.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message