Jeffrey Goldberg wrote:
On Mar 13, 2007, at 8:17 PM, jekillen wrote:
On Mar 12, 2007, at 5:14 PM, RW wrote:
Just as long as you understand the distinction between forward and
reverse DNS. Based on the whois record for for your IP address, at the
moment you appear to have the following reverse DNS for the address
range 75.7.236.224 - 75.7.236.231:
$ for i in `jot 8 224` ; do dig +short -x 75.7.236.$i ; done
adsl-75-7-236-224.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net.
adsl-75-7-236-225.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net.
adsl-75-7-236-226.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net.
adsl-75-7-236-227.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net.
adsl-75-7-236-228.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net.
adsl-75-7-236-229.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net.
adsl-75-7-236-230.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net.
adsl-75-7-236-231.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net.
OK, It appears that it is the ISPs name servers who
are responding. When I call up my sights I get to the
machines they are on according to my present
DNS setup.
But that is what the public sees. If (which I strongly doubt) your
own internal nameservers give a different result to
$ dig +short -x 75.7.236.224
then it still makes no difference to the rest of the world which,
when doing a *reverse* lookup on your IP address doesn't get anything
that looks like your domain name.
try www.brushandbard.com
That's not the question. RW was (correctly) talking about *reverse*
DNS, aka DNS PTR records. That is we are looking at the translation
*from* number *to* name.
If you look up one of my statically IP addresses
$ dig +short -x 72.64.118.115
n115.ewd.goldmark.org.
you get that instead of
static-72-64-118-115.dllstx.fios.verizon.net
It took me many unpleasant hours on the phone to Verizon to get the
reverse look up the way it is now. I spent those hours on the phone
specifically because I did want to run my own direct to MX mailserver.
#####
I just got this above problem cleared up with the Nework that supplies
my lines and IP addresses.
Is this a common practice that the static IP you get from a Network
Provider will reflect the Network Providers ID not yours? I guess then
you have to include what you expect in your order for a line/s and IP/s.
for running mail servers.
Al Plant
NetOpsCenter hdk5.net
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My mailserver sends out mail as being from lists.shepard-families.org
(in the envelope and header froms) but identifies itself as
gecko.ewd.goldmark.org
a regular look up of either of those returns
72.64.118.115
A reverse of that turns up
n115.ewd.goldmark.org
which when you do a regular lookup gets you
72.64.118.115
So my machine is claiming to be in goldmark.org, and doing a reverse
lookup on its IP address points you back to goldmark.org. So that
strongly suggests that when it identifies itself as goldmark.org, it
is doing so with the consent not only of the person who controls the
goldmark.org domain, but also with the consent of the person (in this
case Verizon) who controls the IP address of the machine.
If mail from my machine failed this IP --> name1 --> IP --> name2 -->
IP test (the test being that name1 and name2 are in the same domain
and that "IP" is the same IP throughout), then mail from my machine
would get a high spam score by most systems.
I really don't want to sound harsh with this, but if you aren't fully
clear on concepts like reverse and forward DNS and authoritative
servers for each, you really should be looking for a solution that
doesn't involve you running a direct to MX system. You can still run
your own mailserver which you can integrate with your webserver, but
have it relay all of the outgoing mail to your ISP's SMTP host which
is set up for the purpose.
Also if you post your queries to the postfix mailing list (I think I
recall that you were using postfix) you will probably find lots of
pointers to information explaining about configuration. "The Book of
Postfix" (ISBN 1-59327-001-1) has a good discussion of the need for
other hosts being able to reverse resolve the IP of your mail hub.
-j
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