On Mon, 11 Jun 2007, Scott Mayo wrote:
I am not on any VI list, but thought I would post this here to see if
anyone had any ideas.
This is my first FreeBSD server, so I am still learning.
I got my backspace and delete working the shell after a few
adjustments, but they still act odd in VI. I have checked setting
with my linux boxes (the backspace and delete work fine there) and
everything looks the same. I did an stty -a | grep erase and it tells
me that erase is Contral-? and erase2 is control-H. I have changed
both around to make them either Ctrl-? or Ctrl-H, but that has not
If I hit backspace it just backs up on the line until were input-mode
was started during this input-mode session. If I hit delete then it
capitalizes the charcter behind the cursor and throws me into
I am not sure if there are anymore settings to change in FreeBSD or if
it is a setting in VI.
Any help would greatly be appreciated.
Scott, my stty -a:
cchars: discard = ^O; dsusp = ^Y; eof = ^D; eol = <undef>;
eol2 = <undef>; erase = ^H; erase2 = ^@; intr = ^C; kill = ^U;
lnext = ^V; min = 1; quit = ^\; reprint = ^R; start = ^Q;
status = ^T; stop = ^S; susp = ^Z; time = 0; werase = ^W;
IMO redefining keys is not a good thing if you are learning UNIX and vi.
In the default setup (I use tcsh for an interactive shell) ctrl-h is a
backspace and functions on the command line like the backspace key,
i.e., deletes the char to the left of the cursor. In vi the delete-key
== x in command mode (by default). The [del] key does not work on the
I would advise getting comfortable with the default settings before
branching out. Key bindings and /etc/termcap changes have lots of
ramifications. vi is as it is because it was written when systems were
line oriented. The 'hjkl' are where your fingers sit if you are a touch
typist, and hence were chosen for that purpose. As late as 1995 vi on
BSDI (where I start on the BSD trail) did not support the cursor keys
I have attached a vi cheat sheet that I found years ago. This is a
pretty good starter set of commands for vi.
vi is not even as bad as it gets. vi is in /usr/bin so if your system is
really broken and you must edit something ed is the tool available in
Thanks for the info Doug. A friend of mine set me on the right path. I
have been using vi in linux, except it was not vi. Vi was aliased to
vim. I had installed vim on my FreeBSD server the other day, but that
did not fix it. I found out that it has to be run with 'set nocp' so
that it does not run in vi compatibility mode.
I did this and now my backspace and delete work like I want them to. :)
I appreciate the replies.
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