On Wednesday 15 August 2007 12:39:17 Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
> One of the best emails I've seen as a reply to a user coming from the
> Windows world.
> Many thanks for taking the time to write all this :-)
> - Giorgos
> On 2007-08-15 03:14, David Southwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I see where both sides in this argument are coming from.. basically a
> > lack of understanding of the others point of view. As a user of
> > multiple operating systems..Freebsd, Windows 98, 2000, XP and XP 64,
> > Linux and apple I thought i might throw in a remark or two which is
> > intended to help a newcomer to a freebsd world.
> >
> > First lets think of the MS windows user. As a newcomer to a unix OS,
> > such as freebsd, you are faced with two very large  sets of challenges
> > or, as I would like you to think of it, educational opportunities.
> >
> > Because the vendor of the operating system is also the vendor of major
> > applications, including its most commonly used browser, office
> > applicatiions and compiler systems non-technically minded users do not
> > easily have a clear grasp of the distinction between the  roles of  an
> > OS and the role of applications. To use any Unix system effectively a
> > clear and reasonably detailed understanding of the way applications
> > interact with the operating system is essential.
> >
> > For its own commercial reasons Microssssoft are keen to blur that
> > distinction in the minds of its users to maintain a false notion that
> > only MS windows can fulfill its user's needs.
> >
> > Secondly because  MS windows operates in a commercial environment it
> > fosters a dependency culture in which you pay for your OS, you pay for
> > your applications and in return you EXPECT a level of support and
> > therefore users are not encouraged to extend their capabilities beyond
> > understanding the applications they use.
> >
> > In the freebsd world most applications and utilities  are there for
> > installing without charge. The users include people who develop and
> > everyone partakes in a foem of voluntary mutual support. It is a world
> > in which expectation of support is anathema and in which a combination
> > of striving for greater personal comeptency and voluntary sharing of
> > knowledge and responsibility is the dominant ethos.
> >
> > So if you plan a move to the unix be ready to learn to build a greater
> > understanding of how the operating system works, how applications are
> > installed and maintained and above all to realize your basic needs
> > will not be fulfilled in the same way as they are fulfilled in MS
> > windows and that that you will need to put in a lot of effort to
> > understand how to benefit from the much greater opportunities provided
> > by OS's such as Freebsd.
> >
> > So your first first set of educational opportunities are to learn how
> > reconstruct your expectations and to construct a set of relationships
> > that will work for you in a unix world.
> >
> > The second set of educational opportunities are to study the
> > practicalities.  You need to decide the basic things you need to get
> > on board freebsd. You need a browser.. that is no problem there are
> > many to choose from .. you need office tools well there is a complete
> > office suite. Whatever you need there will be a tool for you and the
> > choices are a rich but usually free!!. The draw back is being faced
> > with the challenge of learning how to choose.
> >
> > That is daunting challenge and those of us who are familiar with unix
> > system, and accustomed to communicating with other freebsd users, are
> > often guilty of failing to understand that people who come from an MS
> > Windows find the terse ways in which we tend to communicate to be
> > abrasive.
> >
> > My suggestion to you would be to proceed without risk. Dabble with
> > freebsd alongside your MSWindows system until you reach the point at
> > which you are ready or not (as the case may be) to change over
> > completely. You do not need the latest hardware to get started.
> > Freebsd is much less bloated and, in that respect, more efficient than
> > MS windows. Follow the instructions and play  with the system and see
> > where you want to go with it. Like countries all IT systems and
> > applications have their own language.  MS windows has its own language
> > !! Every territory has a language needed to discuss its inhabitants
> > understandings. If you use the pejorative term jargon to describe a
> > language you will need to learn you will never learn to adjust. I
> > recomend you treat this adjustment process is an educational
> > opportunity.
> >
> > If you are not willing to learn the words that describe how a world
> > that is new to you functions then, like a immigrant in a foreign land,
> > you will not feel you understand either the practical systems or the
> > cultiure of your environment.
> >
> > You will not find anyone here wanting to sell you the system!! The
> > unix world does not work like that. Those of us who have used unix
> > since before MSDos was developed do not easily realize just how
> > difficult the adjustment can be for those whose experience is limited
> > to MS windows. Forgive us if we seem terse or harsh at times. Our
> > tendency is to indicate resources and trust that others will put in
> > the effort to use those resources to solve their problems.  That is
> > because we have learned that way ourselves and trust the process. The
> > adjustment to this way of thinking is not an easy path for newcomers.
> >
> > Good luck
> > David

Thank you - such generous comments from you are really appreciated.

Thanks again

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