--On December 26, 2007 3:45:15 PM -0700 Warren Block <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Well, me too, and a USB scanner which works well.  But I understand the

As do I.

Lately, I was trying to use a card reader with a too-long USB cable. Not
only did that not work, but it could slow the system down to nothing or
panic it.  Fixed with a powered hub...

I have encountered numerous problems with USB on Windows as well. Some devices only work when plugged directly in to a port on the box. Some are perfectly happy to share a hub with others. So I don't think *all* of the problems are OS-related.

It seems like we need another kind of storage, something that is known
to be only mostly data-safe.  If the system would gracefully handle
unexpected media removals, that would be nice.  Not everything is a
trustworthy hard drive.

The user ought to be able to tell the system "Yes, da0s1 is an msdos
filesystem which I'm going to be yanking out at unexpected times.  Yes,
I know it might lose some data, but at least figure things out and don't

I absolutely agree with this. At a minimum it should be possible to forcibly umount a device that you removed after forgetting to umount it first. If I had the first clue about the code, I'd submit a patch.

Paul Schmehl ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Senior Information Security Analyst
The University of Texas at Dallas

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