Hi gang,

        first a public, up-front *thanks* to Bill Swingle and 
        everyone else here at magnesium.net. If not for this site
        AND my networking (at least)  working, I would be severely
        SOL and sans oar.  At least this acct lets me tell a few 
        people that i'm still hrer; havent given up....  

        So: again: i'm exceptionally grateful.   ..... [volumes left 

On Sat, Jan 05, 2008 at 10:49:54AM +0000, Matthew Seaman wrote:
> Hash: SHA256
> Gary Kline wrote:
> >     Anybody know how I messed up? ---This is no excuse, but because 
> >     of the recent build problems I did wholesale ``portupgrades -af''
> >     (**sigh**)
> > 
> >     Why cannot creat the queue files??
> At a guess, either the queue directories for either or both the MSP
> and MTA sendmail instances have the wrong permissions or one or other
> of MSP, MTA sendmail instances is running with the wrong user credentials.
> You shouldn't get that by doing portupgrade -- certainly I've done a few
> 'portupgrade -af' jobs as part of 6.x -> 7.0 upgrading and not seen
> anything similar.
> Anyhow, you can check that files and directories have the correct
> ownership etc. by:
>    # mtree -p / -ef /etc/mtree/BSD.sendmail.dist
>    # mtree -p /var -ef /etc/mtree/BSD.var.dist
> You can fix any problems by:
>    # mtree -p / -U /etc/mtree/BSD.sendmail.dist
>    # mtree -p /var -U /etc/mtree/BSD.var.dist

        I found out on my own that my clientqueue was 755. my doing.
        it was set (not by me to something bizarre like 740.  i thought 
        i had opened it up to 777 as a test.  i fixed that by hand.
        no diff.

        long-story-short, i ran into worse problems of "Connection refused"
        for tao==, then after a bollixed mergemaster, 
        "Connection refused" with tao only be recognized as
        I knew that / I had blown away my working /etc/hosts file.  I check,
        yup, all my 10.* hosts were gone.  After I added back my private 
        network, sendmail went back to the better failure, seeing Tao
        as 10.250, oldtao|tao2 at 100.247, etc.

        Then I checked my /etc/namedb/s/db.thought.org to see id anything there 
        could conceivably be hanging port 25.  Zip.  (I still updated the
        date and re-exed. I checked with ps and grep to find something new:

624  ??  Ss     0:01.16 /usr/sbin/syslogd -l /var/run/log -l /var/named/var/r
p0 0:27 <sage> [5005]

        In theory I know pretty much what bind9does, &c; but why this
        change?  (Part of my gnome (2.20) is missing so I cannot max
        enlarge the konsole; ps -alx does not wrap so I cant see the 
        entire string.)  I can pimg ns1.thought.org--obviously.  But if you
        see anything here,  Matthew, would you please let me know?

> The other thing to check is that you are running sendmail using the
> correct users and groups.  You should see something like this:
>    # ps -o ruser,rgroup,svuid,svgid,command -p `head -1 
> /var/run/sendmail.pid` -p `head -1 /var/spool/clientmqueue/sm-client.pid`
>    root  wheel      0    25 sendmail: accepting connections (sendmail)
>    smmsp smmsp     25    25 sendmail: Queue [EMAIL PROTECTED]:30:00 for 
> /var/spool/clientm

        Yep; this works.

> And that you have the following lines somewhere in /etc/master.passwd:
> smmsp:*:25:25::0:0:Sendmail Submission 
> User:/var/spool/clientmqueue:/usr/sbin/nologin
> mailnull:*:26:26::0:0:Sendmail Default 
> User:/var/spool/mqueue:/usr/sbin/nologin
> and the following in /etc/group:
> smmsp:*:25:
> mailnull:*:26:

        PING::::: i'm missing "mailnull". how long has sendmail had this
        and if it is more than 6, 8 months, how ever was 6.2 sendmaiil

        I just pasted in to master.passwd.   EERp; it is in /etc/group.
        I never touch these files.   I did use vipw on tao last week but
        not on ns1 (aka "sage").   Got to check my backups of /etc for sage
        and see.  



        id anybody can come up with a SWAG, I'Ll buy you a beer next time
        you're in seattle.   ...this is worse than who killed
        jack-the-ripper.   could-- well... [[?? (bar)]]

> and that the actual sendmail binary (assuming you're using the base system
> sendmail and not one from ports) has the following ownership and permissions:
> # ls -l /usr/libexec/sendmail/
> total 688
> - -r-xr-sr-x  1 root  smmsp  686268 Dec 30 13:50 sendmail*

        Ouch; things are getting stranger and stranger; on tuesdayi did a make
        buildworld (plus a make kernel); then rebooted  and after four
        hours of getty problems was finally able to get in an installworld.
        Does this make any sense?  is this perhaps the 5.5 or 5,4 

total 592
-r-xr-sr-x  1 root  smmsp  583680 Jan  4 19:25 sendmail
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        i thought i had grabbed 6.3, but eviidently not.  maybe things got
        fouled up in the build of the install.   --foo.

>       Cheers,
>       Matthew

        Finally, thanks to this site a gentleman in TX, Jonathon
        Horne will be helping me add at least a firewall using one ancient
        sever with twin nics.  Plus upgrading to 7.0-rc1.....

        one last point before i catch a few hours sleep:: *this* is the
        reason I've used FBSD since 2.0.5/.   the OS itself, naturally,
        and equally, the calibre of people onlist.



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