Sometime yesterday, problems with sending out mail began 
        happening.  I am not sure how my IMAP passwd could have been
        altered.   But it is.

        I first saw this is using mutt from my "desktop" (tao) to my
        mailserver, (aristotle).  On to, in ~/.mutt/muttrc is:

set mbox_type=Maildir
set mask="!^\\.[^.]"
set mbox="~/Maildir"
set record="imaps:// Sent Items"
set copy=yes
set postponed="imaps://"
set spoolfile=imaps://
set folder=imaps://
set imap_user=kline
set use_domain=yes
set duplicate_threads=yes
set realname="Gary Kline"
set signature=~/.signature
set editor="vi"

set sendmail="/usr/local/bin/nbsmtp -U kline -P XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX -d -h -f [EMAIL PROTECTED]

        Last night I had troubles sending mail _out_ via mutt; because I
        can use vi I send most long messages using mutt. Then I tried kmail.
        Same deal when I tried to send.   I was able to mouse-swipe this 

        Sending failed:
        Your SMTP server does not support PLAIN. Choose a different 
authentication method. The server responded: "5.7.0 authentication failed"
        The message will stay in the 'outbox' folder until you either fix the 
problem (e.g. a broken address) or remove the message from the 'outbox' folder.
        The following transport protocol was used:
        Do you want me to continue sending the remaining messages?

        I had/have no clue how to fix this; thus, this email to the list.
        I just tried evolutionn thaat reequested my IMAP password.  I tried 
        my "XXXXXXXX" above---which was what I set it to initially when my
        friend in Dallas, TX helped me set this up in Jan.  [[ He helped me
        yesteerday to get rsync working to auto-backup web and other config
        files from aristotle to other computers.  Can't see any reason that
        anythiing-IMAP would have been touched.]]  

        At any rate, *where* is the IMAP stuff stashed on aristotle?   A 
        mail app called "dovecot" is installed.  Is the password stuff 
        kept somewhere in plaintext?  And:: WHY do I need this level of
        security?  I would rather not have any password protection on my 

        thanks for any help,


Gary Kline  Seattle BSD Users' Group (seabug)      | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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