Lars Eighner wrote:
On Tue, 25 Mar 2008, Isaac Mushinsky wrote:
Yes, I saw that. But FreeBSD is not linux, and using multiple drivers
for
the same device is more of a problem for us. HPLIP, on the other hand,
requires bare ugen, not loading ulpt or uscanner or perhaps even
umass, a
very unnatural and cumbersome thing for me (I want umass, and I also
sometimes use a Nikon photo film scanner, which work via sane).
You can use umass devices with HPLIP, but you must load umass after the
printer has attached as a ugen device. Then you can attach and detach
umass
devices as much as you please. You seem to imply there is a conflict
between uscanner devices, but I don't see what that conflict might be.
Uscanner will not grab the scanner function of a multifunction printer
with
hplip. It doesn't appear there is a conflict of executable names either.
There is absolutely no all-in-one device which will work out of box with
FreeBSD.
HP devices as you noticed require kernel recompilation and have that
undocumented umass driver removal and load. They are probably best bet
but they are expensive (I am talking laser as I would stay away from
ink-jets by all means).
The second group of devices which should work out of box Epson CX
all-in-one class devices (which
are ink jet so I would stay a way from them anyway) are not listed in
uscanner driver so they will not work out of box without manually
adding your devices into the driver and then recompiling despite the
fact that epson and epson2 backends support them.
Future of Epson scanners is bleak on FreeBSD as Epson has released
proprietary drivers for Linux. I believe
any effort for writing sane-backends for Epson scanners has terminated.
I personally like Brother all-in-one monochromatic devices for home use
which are probably $150-200 cheaper than
equivalent HP devices. I have seen good all-on-one for $120-150 on line.
Brother has scanner drivers for them brscan and brscan2 but those
drivers have hidden
binary blob libraries which depend on Linux kernel. They can not be
compiled on FreeBSD. I talked to their
technical support in Japan and they were the one to tell me to give up
and disclosed quite a few information about
them.
Samsung has very cheap color laser jet printer which often require Splix
driver (ported for FreeBSD but version 2.0
which is written from ground up is
expected soon). I have no idea about their scanners but you can get
refurbished color laser jet form Samsung for $100 if you are lucky. They
are probably way to go if you need color printing too.
I personally would get an honest printer which in the worst case
scenario speaks PCL possibly with flat bad copier
and get used scanner for $10 which is explicitly listed on
hardware notes of FreeBSD.
If you are doing lots of scanning I would even considering deploying
Linux unless uscanner, ugen, and few other
drivers which are at the moment incapable of getting Vendor and Product
ID get better.
Cheers,
Predrag
Thus I am looking for a network device, or if USB, then it should
appear as
separate uscanner/ulpt/umass.
On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 1:08 PM, herbert langhans
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
Hi Isaac,
this is a good start:
http://www.linux-foundation.org/en/OpenPrinting
In the 'printer' section you find a ranking and evaluation how the
printers do on unixoid systems.
Cheers
herbs
mount -t wbush /dev/whitehouse /dev/nul
On Tue, 25 Mar 2008 12:12:52 -0400
"Isaac Mushinsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> My 10-year-old deskjet being out of ink and probably not worth a
replacement
cartridge (it works, but makes some mechanical noise lately), I am
considering a reasonable replacement, preferably with scanning/copy
possibilities.
I tried to get Photosmart C4280, but while I was trying a faulty
printcap on
it, it lost its mind permanently (says 'incompatible print
cartridges',
and
does not respond to the button combinations that HP support thinks
should
reset it). Besides, you can either attach it as ulpt or uscanner
device,
or
play with hplip drivers as a generic device, but it seems too
confusing. It was a waste of time and money for me and I am going to
return
it.
Requirements:
1. Reasonable physical size (should not be much larger than the old
deskjet).
2. Either network/lpd or USB, scanner should be well supported by
sane.
If
used via USB, it should be a compound device (i.e. printer, scanner
and,
if
there, the umass device should appear as separate devices to avoid
kld-loading and unloading modules). I heard Epsons show up as compound
devices? any HP laserjets?
3. Reasonable maintenance cost (maybe a laser printer, I do not
care for
color printing that much).
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