On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 07:52:11AM +0200, Leslie Jensen wrote:
> Jeremy Chadwick skrev:
>> On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 06:41:05AM +0200, Leslie Jensen wrote:
>>> Jeremy Chadwick skrev:
>>>> On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 06:24:56AM +0200, Leslie Jensen wrote:
>>>>> I'm running 7.1-PRERELEASE. Yesterday I csup'ed and upgraded as
>>>>> I've done several times in order to install 7.1-BETA2.
>>>>> Everything went as it should, but my system still says
>>>>> 7.1-PRERELEASE. In my stable-supfile I have "*default
>>>>> release=cvs tag=RELENG_7".
>>>>> Can anyone tell me where I can make sure that my system upgrades to
>>>> You are essentially running BETA2, with even newer fixes since the BETA2
>>>> release. You should stay with the RELENG_7 tag.
>>> Thanks Jeremy
>>> I thought that the uname tag would change to "BETA-2"
>> I sincerely do not know where "BETA2" (not "BETA-2") comes from. It's
>> not defined anywhere in src/sys/conf/newvers.sh in CVS:
> I got it from here
You've misunderstood what I said. :-)
I want to know where the "BETA2" string actually came **from**, meaning
who or what idealised it and why. It is not a CVS tag, and it's not
referred to anywhere other than the "here's the ISOs" mails that come
The problem is that this string generates confusion; you are not the
first person who has gotten confused by this (downloading version
labelled with XYZ and upon building world/kernel, seeing version ABC,
inducing an Email to a mailing list asking "I downloaded XYZ, but I'm
seeing string ABC. Where is the tag for XYZ? I want to follow it",
only to be told "XYZ is actually PRERELEASE").
In essence what I'm saying is we're inconsistent with the strings
we use for distributions of FreeBSD. Users **barely** understand
the difference between -STABLE and -RELEASE, and only a select few
understand the difference between CVS tags RELENG_x and RELENG_x_y.
For distributions that are not STABLE or RELEASE, we need to stick with
a single string, and that string (IMHO) should be PRERELEASE-YYYYMMDD
(to signify the build date).
>> To me, this means someone is hand-hacking the file before making ISO
>> releases. The problem with this is there's no way to correlate what CVS
>> tag said string is based on; I have to assume it's RELENG_7.
>> CC'ing Ken, who can probably explain where "BETA2" comes from, since I
>> believe he's the one who makes the builds.
>> I really wish we'd name our not-yet-RELEASE-or-STABLE ISO releases as
>> FreeBSD x.y-PRERELEASE-YYYYMMDD, which would make more sense to users.
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