On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 07:08:41PM +1100, Ian Smith wrote:
> On Tue, 17 Feb 2009 13:43:30 +0000 Anton Shterenlikht <me...@bristol.ac.uk> 
> wrote:
> 
>  > The who (or w, or finger) command shows that I'm still logged into ttyp5,
>  > even though I have rebooted the <xxx> box many times since. Does this mean
>  > the corresponding entry in /var/run/utmp is wrong and shouldn't be there, 
> or is there
>  > still some process attached to ttyp5?
> 
> Certainly the former, given you've rebooted.  I've had occasions when 
> utmp gets silly, though not for ages.  Abrupt shutdown / power loss?
> 
>  > ouput of w:
>  > 
>  > USER             TTY      FROM      LOGIN@  IDLE WHAT
>  > mexas            p4       <xxx>     1:32pm     - w
>  > mexas            p5       <xxx>:0. 26Jan09 21days -
>  > 
>  > ps ax | grep ttyp5
>  >  shows no process
> 
> ps would only list it as 'p5' anyway.
> 
> 'w -d' may be a bit more informative:
> 
> % w -d
>  6:00PM  up 68 days, 15:22, 1 user, load averages: 0.58, 0.23, 0.13
> USER             TTY      FROM              LOGIN@  IDLE WHAT
>                 3733      login [pam] (login)
>                 3734      -csh (csh)
>                 7333      /bin/sh /usr/X11R6/bin/startx
>                 7351      /usr/X11R6/bin/xinit /home/smithi/.xinitrc -- -auth 
> /home/smithi/.serverauth.7333 -nolisten tcp
>                 7352      X :0 -auth /home/smithi/.serverauth.7333 -nolisten 
> tcp (Xorg)
>                 7356      /bin/sh /usr/local/bin/startkde
>                 7421      kwrapper ksmserver
> smithi           v7       -                12Dec08 68days 
> /usr/X11R6/bin/xinit /home/smithi/.xinitrc -- -auth /
> 
>  > Looking at w(1) man page it seems that "-" in WHAT can be an indication
>  > that the process failed but not cleanly and that there could be some forked
>  > sub-process still alive. Does this make sense? Which other commands I can 
> use
>  > to see what's going on?
> 
> utmp(5) makes good bedtime reading :)
> 
> /var/log/wtmp can get messed up sometimes too, especially if you're 
> logged in when periodic(8) monthly rotates it, but tools include:
> 
> % last
> smithi           ttyp5    dolores          Mon Feb  2 15:52 - 15:57  (00:05)
> wtmp begins Mon Feb  2 15:52:27 EST 2009
> 
> !last -f /var/log/wtmp.0
> smithi           ttyp5    rock.-----.org   Mon Jan 26 19:37 - 23:17  (03:40)
> smithi           ttyp5    rock.-----.org   Thu Jan 15 21:30 - 21:45  (00:14)
> smithi           ttyp5    rock.-----.org   Thu Jan 15 18:04 - 18:05  (00:00)
> smithi           ttyp5    rock.-----.org   Thu Jan 15 18:01 - 18:03  (00:01)
> somebody         ftp      ww.xxx.yyy.zz    Thu Jan  1 10:47 - 10:50  (00:03)
> [..]
> 
> % who
> smithi           ttyv7    Dec 12 02:39
> % who /var/log/wtmp.0
> [..]
> somebody         ftp61687 Jan  1 10:47 (ww.xxx.yyy.zz)
> smithi           ttyp5    Jan 15 18:01 (rock.-----.org)
> smithi           ttyp5    Jan 15 18:04 (rock.-----.org)
> smithi           ttyp5    Jan 15 21:30 (rock.-----.org)
> smithi           ttyp5    Jan 26 19:37 (rock.-----.org)
> 
> % who am i
> smithi           ttyp4    Feb 18 18:16
> % tty
> /dev/ttyp4
> 
> you could try opening enough xterms (ono) so your ttyp5 is used, then 
> exit them cleanly?  Failing that, you can boot single user, mount /var, 
> rm /var/run/utmp, hit ^D (or reboot) .. IIRC I had to do that once; not 
> sure what happens if you rm /var/run/utmp while running multi-user! :)

Ian, thank you. It's gone. Perhaps in the meantime I did log on to ttyp5 and 
exited
cleanly. Thanks for the tips anyway.

-- 
Anton Shterenlikht
Room 2.6, Queen's Building
Mech Eng Dept
Bristol University
University Walk, Bristol BS8 1TR, UK
Tel: +44 (0)117 928 8233 
Fax: +44 (0)117 929 4423
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