On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 10:34:46AM +0200, Roland Smith wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 04:13:17PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote:
> > On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 06:37:36AM -0500, Depo Catcher wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On 8/20/2010 7:07 PM, Gary Kline wrote:
> > > >On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 06:45:11PM -0500, Adam Vande More wrote:
> > > >>On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 4:38 PM, Gary Kline<kl...@thought.org>  wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>>of my three tower cases still linked by wires so i can "click-over"
> > > >>>to each and use my one screen and keyboard, my server
> > > >>>[ethic|ns1.thought.org] has a bad wire to my keyboard.  so i really
> > > >>>cannot do much on ethic.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>i've crawled down under 8 or 9 times and messed with various wires.
> > > >>>that was extremely hard as fruitless.  (things were|everything WAS)
> > > >>>working fine until i added my battery backup.  the guy who helped me
> > > >>>with that 700-pound beast must have gotten something mixed up.  because
> > > >>>of his age (70's) and fraility i don't want to ask him to crawl around
> > > >>>under there (&c).  the two boxes that are working are impossible for me
> > > >>>to pull out and look at.  hopefully there are a couple freebsd types
> > > >>>who rely on kvm wires to do serious work and can give me some clues.
> > > >>>
> > > >>/usr/ports/sysutils/synergy
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > > this looks very interesting, thank you.  the catch is that it
> > > > depends on X.  i don't have X installed on the server. .....
> > > >
> > > 
> > > ssh?
> > > 
> > 
> >     sure.  for simple things.  but i need to get X going to get my UPS 
> >     set up.   also, to properly upgrade things.  i was upgrading via
> >     ssh and something broke.  it took an hour of messing around to get
> >     ethic back up, fsck'd , and mail working.
> 
> You just said two things that seem to contradict each other. You said you need
> to get X going to get the UPS set up, but earlier you said you don't have X
> installed on the server?
> 
> Why would you need X to "properly upgrade things?" The upgrading of both the
> OS and ports works primarily with command-line tools. Do you realize that you 
> can
> make more than one ssh connection to a server in case you want e.g. one shell
> to make run programs in and another to keep an eye on things.
> 
> If you don't have X set up on the server, you should use ssh (or telnet if you
> have a trusted network). If you do have X set up on the server, you can use
> the net/vnc port to view the server's X11 screen on another machine. And ssh
> can also do X forwarding.


        no X11, but i do need it.

        is there a way of getting, say, [c]twm configured remotely?  i managed
        to have portupgrade finish succesfuully last night without breaking
        anything.  there were 33 things that failed, 0 skipped, and 
        More than 450 ports successfully upgraded.  i checked with pkgdb
        -Favf; it worked.  what failed was related to the x11 drivers.

        the machine is a 2009 dell 550 inspiron.  i do not want to do too
        much with X so as to avoid some kind of crash that will break
        everything.  still, it would be nice to have X for /root and for
        the UPS.   

        the server and telco "modem" is my connection to the outside world
        so i don't want to take too many risks.   but now that everything
        is up to date [port-wise], now what?

        gary

> 
> Roland
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