On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 03:14:50PM -0500, Robert Bonomi wrote:

> > From owner-freebsd-questi...@freebsd.org  Thu Sep 22 14:30:49 2011
> > Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 12:30:54 -0700
> > From: Gary Kline <kl...@thought.org>
> > To: FreeBSD Mailing List <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
> > Cc: 
> > Subject: much to my surprise....
> >
> >
> > guys,
> >
> > well, after a forced, unexpected, and emergency 5 days away, i got
> > back to my desk and could not ping.  while mail seemed to be working, 
> > and my *local* ping worked---I could ping around from my freebsd server
> > to my other computers--i spent 3+ hours trying to ping various
> > sites.  Zero.  i tried everything i could think of.  NOTHING worked.  
> > i tried the -d -f -f to named and on and on and on.  nothing.
> >
> > *Finally*, i  saw that my telco router was displaying "INT" in red
> > LED's.  i didn't know they displayed in any other color but the
> > default green, but after power-cycling, voila! back to green.  
> > and now, yes, i can ping freebsd.org.  and i'm pretty sure other
> > network things will work too.  
> >
> > from any/all sysadmin types or others::
> > i would like tricks, tips, insights--whatever--about named and
> > whatever else.  i thought i had collected many.  nope.    i've got
> > bind 9.8 installed and it was working fine until my recent
> > 'vacation.'  Other than checking one's routers (hub/switch), and other 
> > hardware (including server, computers, cables, etc) does anybody have a
> > checklist of what to do to diagnose this?  are there any other
> > utilities i can try besides ping and named -d 3 -f -g?   other
> > network utilities with a debug flag?  i'm running 7.3 on a dell 530.
> >
> > tia for any insights,
> 
> You should _really_ consider hiring a professional to maintain your 
> systems.
> 
> Diagnosing _this_ problem should have taken no more than about 30
> *seconds*. 
> 
> If you can't get somewhere 'by name', you try to get there 'by address'.
> 
> If 'by address' works and 'by name' doesn't, *that* is the indication of
> a DNS problem.
> 
> If you can't get there 'by address', it is *NOT* a DNS problem, and you 
> start looking for a 'connectivity' problem.
> 
> The *BASIC* tools for that start with 'traceroute'.  Which would have
> *immediately* (well, within abut ten seconds :) indicated exactly _where_ 
> the problem was.
> 
> Those  who don't understand these kind dof things are "too dangerous"
> to be trusted with the superuser password.
> 
> Bluntly, not only do you not know the things you need to know to manage
> a (even 'personal') network, you "DON'T KNOW _what_ you don't know", and 
> until you *do* learn the basics, you'll save youself a *LOT* of hair-
> tearing if you hire someone to solve the problems for you.


While your information may be correct and useful, your self-righteous
arrogant diatribe is not helpful or appropriate on this list.  

////jerry 
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