On Wed, 2 May 2012, Jerome Herman wrote:
On 02/05/2012 19:40, Jerry wrote:
On Wed, 2 May 2012 13:19:05 -0400 (EDT)
d...@safeport.com articulated:
On Wed, 2 May 2012, Warren Block wrote:
On Wed, 2 May 2012, Albert Shih wrote:
I think the problem is indeed comme from Xorg.
Just to repeat: on this Gateway notebook, only one or the other of
the touchpad or mouse would work until I enabled moused
in /etc/rc.conf. Now either or both work, including when the USB
mouse is connected after X starts.
My experience corresponds with Warren's thoughts on this. I was
running the exact levels of software on an old Dell 800Mhz desktop and
new aDell laptop many many times faster, 4 cpu's etc, etc. HAL (which
is well named I think) did not work very well on the laptop and I
would lose the mouse and keyboard when I disabled the touchpad. On the
Desktop HAL worked fine. The laptop (keyboard and mouse anyway) works
fine without HAL.
HAL is now deprecated on GNU/Linux systems. Why it is still being kept
on life support in FreeBSD is the question that needs to be addressed.
This didn't just happen yesterday either. We continue to bump version
numbers yet fail to repair/replace crucial elements of the
operating system. What is even better, depending on whose forum you
choose to read, the problem is FreeBSD -- Linux -- Gnome -- KDE -- "The
Cat in the Hat" (no one has blamed Microsoft for this fiasco as far as
I know) yet the problem still exists. Since 2008, when HAL was being
deprecated, no one has properly addressed the problem. Everyone plays
the "blame game".
Be carefull that Linux notion of "Deprecated" is not exactly on par with
standard meaning of the term. ifconfig has been deprecated since 1999 in
Linux, OSS since 2001. Both are still alive and kicking. So it might be that
Linux will keep HAL for a while still.
I guess my comments were not clear. If something does not work for a particular
configuration, why use it? Given the 1000s of different BIOSs, PCs and the fact
that everything is written to work with windows, to expect no issues is not
realistic. My only point was/is if it does not work for your configuration, you
are not likely (in my experience) to be able to get it working without a pretty
good knowledge of fbsd, xorg and C. The handbook is very clear on how to
configure without HAL, so that should be the first thing to try.
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