On Tue, Sep 23, 2003 at 03:32:01PM +1000, Andy K wrote:
> Hiya Ajax Munroe 
> 
> Seems that you don't have a lot of patience :) 
> 
> I never made a bootable CD - I just downloaded the .iso images and went
> nuts. Sure it took a little getting used to, I also come from a windows
> environment and am stuck in one everyday at work.BSD is for everyone,
> it's just that Bill has taken away our opportunity to learn what we are
> doing. Should you persevere with BSD, you will find that windows is
> purely a display manager not a true computer - FreeBSD is both. 

The term computer refers to the hardware only. I take it that you mean
the OS instead. I also come from a Windows (and before that DOS) but I
don't see way those aren't good/full OS.

> Good Luck 
> Hope we hear from you again 
> Andrew Kozak 
> FreeBSD Rox my Sox !!!!! 
>   
>   
> I dont have a question but I would like to make a statement. I
> downloaded Freebsd version 5.0 release and unpacked it in great
> anticipation. I made a bootable CD (the best I could, It's not as easy
> as making a bootable windows CD) put the cd in my rom and found that
> BSD is not for me. 

> Look, Im not trying to put BSD down or anything, I would love to have
> it on my computer fully working so that I could use something other
> than Windows! Im by no means bored with Windows, I find new and
> exciting things out with it all the time.I feel that im pretty
> literate when it comes to computers, which brings me to this: You
> people have to make a product that is just slightly more user
> friendly. 

> Cant you think of a way to auto-mount your os like windows?

Do you mean like mounting the partitions on you harddisk by default or
you floppies?  The first can be done with the current system. If you did
the installation correctly then this would happen after the reboot.

> Setting up your os is like trying to work your way through a jigsaw
> puzzle. (Windows even partitions your drive for you) If someone expects
> to challenge the makers of Windows they are going to have to come up
> with a user friendly system like Windows where you have an easy
> command format instead of what your trying to do. 

The installation I use does this also. So I don't know with what your
having problems.

> I mean come on, first you have to figure out what to partition the
> drive in because you dont explain any of this.

It is alle explained in the FreeBSD handbook:
http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/

> , then you have to mount everything, which is beyond the average users
> comprehension, then you have to figure out commands to pass along to
> the kernel..etc...etc...etc. 

You problebly can by pass this. I never pass command to the kernel when
i install FreeBSD or even after the first session with it.

> With Windows
> all you do is stick in the disk and it's all pretty straight forward
> from there on out.
> 
> 
> Please, if you could just tell me of one of your systems thats a
> little more user friendly I would love to use it, and tell all my
> friends about it too so that they can spread the word about the new
> operating system thats fun and easy to use.

If your new to FreeBSD then you proberbly sould go with the 4 brange
instead of 5.0. The 5 brange isn't considerd stable and that goes dubble
for 5.0. Read the handbook on how to install before trying it. Also keep
a copy of the installation chapter by your site when you do install it.

Meny of those on this list are willing to lend you a helping hand
during the installation, incase you still have problemens with it.

-- 
Alex

Articles based on solutions that I use:
http://www.kruijff.org/alex/index.php?dir=docs/FreeBSD/
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