i find this frustrating. on your website (page http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ports- using.html)
the following tells me that 'from cd' and 'from internet' are exactly the same... it does not tell me the directory of (ie.) lsof. it simply tells me to 'make install'. please help a poor green newbie.
I suppose I am sorry for your frustration. I must admit to having a bit of trouble discerning your question, however. Are you looking for "lsof_4.69.tar.gz"?
I'll try and give you my thoughts on the subject.
Let's use the ports system to install an imaginary application, "fooapp". I can use several methods to determine a location for "fooapp".
#whereis fooapp /usr/ports/misc/fooapp
#cd /usr/ports #make search key=fooapp
Port: fooapp-0.0.1 Path: /usr/ports/misc/fooapp Info: Has title bars, icons, taskbar, clock Maint: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Index: misc B-deps: imake-4.3.0_1 perl-5.6.1_14 pkgconfig-0.15.0 R-deps: imake-4.3.0_1 perl-5.6.1_14 pkgconfig-0.15.0
Now, what I need to realize is something that you seem to be understanding from your previous reading. The directory /usr/ports/misc/fooapp *does not* contain the source code for the program "fooapp". And FreeBSD doesn't *expect* it to.
The source code is continually being improved and updated, and is held on various sites around the Internet. If I happen to have the source code for "fooapp" available (and it *must* be the same revision number as the file /usr/ports/misc/fooapp/Makefile was written for, I *must* copy that "source file" (generally compressed into a "tarball") to the "distfiles" directory, /usr/ports/distfiles. The "tarball" for version 0.0-1 of "fooapp" is likely named "fooapp0.0-1.tar.gz". If I don't have it available, the ports system will complain, then attempt to fetch it from a distribution site on the Internet.
Now, if you have "fooapp0.0-1.tar.gz" on a CD, you should copy that file to /usr/ports/distfiles, and then change to /usr/ports/misc/fooapp and type "make install clean".
This should install the application by uncompression of /usr/ports/distfiles/fooapp0.0-1.tar.gz, using the "Makefile" to compile and install the application. But, we haven't discussed one other crucial thing.
In the output of the second command above, you see that "fooapp" has both "b-deps" and "r-deps". These are "dependencies", the bane of many an installer. In order to build "fooapp", you must have imake-4.3.0_1 perl-5.6.1_14 and pkgconfig-0.15.0 installed as well. There's a good chance that each of these 3 programs has it own set of dependencies as well. You're gonna have to do a lot of copying of distfiles, assuming you even have them on a CD.
If there's any good news, it's that this system is much better than what a significant portion of the Linux community has had to deal with in past years.
I don't think it's terrible that the FBSD release engineering team expects that most users will have an internet connection in order to handle the various "tarballs" that will need to be fetched while installing various 3rd party applications. FBSD is made for the internet. Since so much of the software is free, there is little $ to be made by packaging the software on CD's, as happens in the "Microsoft" world. And the speed of development is furious ... CD's are generally outdated by the time they are printed and placed on the market, anyway.
Other things you may not know:
*Some CD sets do have "distfiles" on them ... hundreds of them. IIRC, there are generally at least 5 or more CD's in that set.
*Distfiles for almost all apps in the "ports" tree are available in the "distfiles" directory on the FTP site(s).
Kevin Kinsey DaleCo, S.P.
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