Yesterday (see previous note) I decided to upgrade from 4.5 to 4.10. I guess what I really wanted was to upgrade the system utilities and ports. The problem I'm running into is all the newer multi-media stuff (gnome2, mozilla 1.6, ....) depend on fontconfig which depend upon XFree86 4.x (4.5 was based on Free86 3.x). Now the question is can i build these things without upgrading X. I suppose I can upgrade X (not sure what new and wonderful problems that will introduce and if my old configs for gnome1 and X are going to work after the upgrade)? My guess is I will have to bite the bullet and do the portupgrade -ra and/or manually upgrade X to vs 3 to get out of my current state of things being 1/2 built. But thought I would drop this note to see if anyone had any more graceful suggestions. Last but least I had one kernel panic last night - is 4.10 stable less stable than 4.5 release ?? (no panics in 1+ years under 4.5). I was adding stuff to a directory while deleting stuff from the directory (two scripts) when the kernel panic (was really a panic - the kernel jsut rebooted while the scripts were running - nothing in syslog). I did the buildworld upgrade but I still need to upgrade devices (i suppose this is pretty naughty but I guess 4.5 and 4.10 are pretty close as things seem to be running ok). thanks, Alan _______________________________________________ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"