At 2004-06-15T13:46:21Z, Matthew Seaman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> The fact that sysadmins generally don't know users' passwords, and have no
> practical means of finding them out if the user doesn't want them to know
> what it is.

Install and play with "john".  It was enlightening for me.

> Since the sysadmin doesn't know what the users' password is on the systems
> he admins, the user can safely use the same password on other systems with
> different admins.

For the sake of clarity, is that your belief, or are you explaining what
other peoples' opinions?
Kirk Strauser

"94 outdated ports on the box,
 94 outdated ports.
 Portupgrade one, an hour 'til done,
 82 outdated ports on the box."

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