Hello, Thanks, i did that. The adding of the -v option isn't giving me any additional information, it's just saying what it said before, smtpd is dying with exit status 1, and now the error "server did not send an smtp greeting. I think my next move is to try a complete reinstall. I didn't want to do this, but i'm not seeing the problem and as i said -v isn't really helping. Thanks. Dave.
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