On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 14:36:27 -0500 Jason Dusek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Well, thank you for pointing me at the mailing search utility. I didn't > know about it. The Handbook is often dated - for example the discussion > of installing Mathematica is totally erroneous. would be good of you to drop a line to the docs list to point out exactly what parts you feel are erroneous. about the handbook being dated. well, much of what we want do under unix is fairly dated. nevertheless, you'll often find articles from years back which still apply today. do you keep your docs up to date? you know that you can do that, in much the same way as you update your ports? here's a decent link to keep you busy: http://www.bsdnews.org/02/freebsd_doc.php if you decide to poke around this site, _please_ be wary of instructions given at http://www.bsdnews.org/03/bsd_update.php. though they can work in the short term, they go against official recommendations by the freebsd project and can end up causing serious breakage over the long term. > What is an OP? OP = original poster. another point, if you'll indulge me. taken from http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions: ### This is the mailing list for questions about FreeBSD. You should not send "how to" questions to the technical lists unless you consider the question to be pretty technical. ### over time, you too will probably find it a tad frustrating to see people post 'please-hold-my-hand' style questions when it is obvious that they haven't invested the barest modicum of effort into searching for the answers themselves. (and perhaps i just need a vacation) there is nothing that can be done to prevent 'the same questions' from being asked but to educate users on the tools available to them and to encourage the development of a measure of autonomy. though the list is under no obligation to answer 'any' questions, you'll note that 'repeated' questions tend to get answered anyway. (myself guilty of this until nudged in the right direction) many people are very understanding that way. hey, indulging newbies is an important way of welcoming them into the community and it gives newer posters (like moi) a chance to answer simple questions. yet, the more users can fend for themselves when it comes to basic questions (gee, i wonder if anyone else ever tried to do 'x', well, i'll have a look...), the more the list can focus on crafting solutions to complicated and challenging problems which help build and strengthen our collective knowledge base, which is the list archive. always your closest friends: (o) the handbook (o) the mailing list archives (one for each list) (o) google (o) any bsd books you've purchased when those let you down and you find yourself in dire straights: (o) freebsd-questions lastly, i have found that one tends to get better results when one shows what one has already tried (ie. what work has done). if one has done nothing, it is time for them to consult their closest friends, not the list. please note that i do not speak for the list. dearest list, if i'm am waaaay off base here, please chastise me. apologies if i come off as harsh, crusty, pugnacious, or pedantic. my intention was only to counsel. ;) all the best, epi p.s. added the list back in cc only to share my rant (er, these suggestions) with others. > - Jason > > epilogue wrote: > > On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 12:55:11 -0500 > > Jason Dusek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > >>Hi, > >> > >>How do I set up the java-vm plugin for Mozilla? > > > > > > did you even bother to pay a visit to > > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/ (?!) > > > > try typing "java mozilla vm" or "java mozilla plugin" or similar into > > that cute little search field, then click the magic 'search' button? > > > > what about the handbook page which covers this? > > http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/desktop-browsers.html > > > > dude, the knowledge base is available 24/7 and just waiting to do your > > bidding. > > > > /me removes spoon from OPs mouth and firmly pushes same out of nest. > > > > > > > >>- Jason > >>_______________________________________________ > >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list > >>http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > >>To unsubscribe, send any mail to > >>"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > >> > _______________________________________________ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions To unsubscribe, send any mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"