On Wed, Jan 05, 2005 at 01:00:47PM -0700, Tom Vilot wrote:
> Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
> 
> >Tom,
> >
> > Have you tried any of the alternative implementations of Java?
> >Sun's isn't the only one out there.
> >
> 
> I have.
> 
> I'm sorry, I am mostly venting my frustration with Java as a language, 
> Sun as a company, and J2EE as a hugely bloated and over-architected 
> solution in dire need of a problem.
> 
        (Yup!)


        --I've been wanting to ask about kaffee [ if this is a Java
        clone ], and any other.  C was the first quantum leap, 
        OS- and application-wise.  We have many alternatives to
        the Dennis Ritchie orginal, so it would seem possible to
        follow another course for things-java.   Hopefully.

        So, without hijacking this thread *too* far, what other
        Open src projects will run "Java"-applets and so on??

        gary

        PS: This might work well in the article... .


-- 
   Gary Kline     [EMAIL PROTECTED]   www.thought.org     Public service Unix

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