On 12/9/2015 21:37, Freddie Cash wrote: > > > On Dec 9, 2015 7:24 PM, "Karl Denninger" <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > > On 12/9/2015 17:29, Michael B. Eichorn wrote: > > > I sorry, but I really don't get your point, PCBSD has shown a great > > > reason why zfs on root and on laptops/desktops is a good idea... boot > > > environments. They have pretty much figured out how to use snapshots > > > to go from A-B ping-pong installations to A-B-C-D-E.... installations. > > > I am even aware of people using it to run Release and Current on the > > > same machine. Unfortunately at the moment the system requires GRUB, > > > but there is ongoing work to add the ability to the FreeBSD > > > bootloader. Further IIRC zfs send-receive has a history involving a > > > developer who wanted a better rsync for transfering his work to a > > > laptop. In addition we have pretty much Moore's Lawed our way to the > > > point where a new laptop today can out spec a typical server from when > > > ZFS was first implemented. Hiding features because you 'can' shoot > > > your foot off is hardly a typical UNIXy way of thinking anyway. > > > > Boot environments work fine on FreeBSD. Look at "beadm" :-) > > > > What are you trying to do that you need GRUB? > > GRUB supports listing and selecting boot environments as part of the > boot process. > > FreeBSD 8.x and 9.x boot loaders don't support listing or selecting > BEs. Neither does 10.0; not sure about 10.1. > > Devin Teske and company did a lot of work on this area, and I believe > 10.2, certainly -CURRENT, supports this. > > Because of BEs, PC-BSD flip-flopped between the FreeBSD loader and > GRUB in the 9.x and 10.x releases. I think they support both now. > > Typos courtesy of my phone's autocorrect. >
Beadm allows you to set the "next boot" and works as expected. You can't select from the boot loader but you can certainly ping-pong between a working and test environment easily (I do this all the time) -- Karl Denninger [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> /The Market Ticker/ /[S/MIME encrypted email preferred]/
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