Merhabalar,

Bugüne kadar hep windows kullanmış bir bilgisayar meraklısıyım.
Alternatif olabilecek "FREE" (özgür mü demeli? ücretsiz mi?) işletim
sistemlerini öğrenmek ve başarabilirsem evimde ve işyerimde kullanmak
ve ileride oğlumu da bu sistemleri kullanabilecek şekilde yetiştirmek
istiyorum.

Bir süredir elimdeki alternatifleri değerlendiriyorum. Bir yanda
Linux, bir yanda UNIX (sanırım ücretli bir sitem) ve bir yanda da
freeBSD var.

Hangisini kullanmalıyım? Avantaj ve dezavantajları nelerdir? Başlangıç
adımı olarak neyi kullanmalıyım? Sonra nasıl ilerlemeliyim?

Bu listeden doğru kişilere ulaştığımı düşünerek yazıyorum.
Yardımcı olabilirseniz çok sevinirim.

On 9/27/05, Omer Faruk Sen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Kusura bakmayin birkac seyi karistirmisim. sizin ihtiyaciniz olan sey
> device.hints'e konulacak olan hint.acpi.0.disabled="1" olacak. Ben acpi'i
> apic ile karistirmisim ;)
>
> Omer Faruk Sen writes:
>
> > acpi'yi disable edin. /boot/device.hints dosyasina eklenti yapin.
> > hint.apic.0.disabled="1" ekleyin.
> >
> > Bu arada yeni farkettim. /boot/loader.conf'a ekleyin diyor manual
> > page'lerde
> > hint.apic.0.disabled="1 satirini. Oysaki ben daha once hep device.hints'e
> > eklerdim..
> >
> >
> > Siz en iyisi device.hints'e ekleyin. DL380 sunuculara bolca FreeBSD
> > kurdum. Su ana kadar bir problem yasamadim. Gerci direk acpi disable
> > ettigim icin olabilir bu..
> >
> >
> > Baris Simsek writes:
> >
> >> merhaba,
> >>
> >> SMP olabilir. Maalesef 5.X kernel hala kararli hale gecemedi. 4.X 'ten
> >> gecis yaparken cok fazla alt yapi degisikligi yaptilar. Ozellikle SMP ve
> >> networking alt yapisinda. O nedenle stabilite kazanmasi zaman alacak. Bu
> >> yenilikler FreeBSD hizinda buyuk bir artisa neden oldu ancak bu stabilite
> >> sorunu ile beraber. Gecis versiyonu oldu bu 5.X serisi. FreeBSD takiminin
> >> soyledigi (Omer, Robert Watson ile gorusmustu gecen ay) sponsorlarin
> >> amerika'daki "dot com" krizinden sonra desteklerini cektikleri ve o
> >> nedenle islerin planlanan sekilde gitmedigi. Zaten 5.X serisi epey bir
> >> sure ertelenmisti cikisi, hatirlarsaniz. Bu sorunlar 6 serisinde
> >> duzeltiliyor.
> >>
> >> Emin olmak icin SMP destegini kaldirip bir sure o sekilde kullanmanizi
> >> tavsiye ediyorum.
> >>
> >> selamlar...
> >>
> >> Mahmut Emin wrote:
> >>
> >>> Merhaba,
> >>> HP DL380 çift CPU bir sunucum var, üzerine FreeBSD 5.4 kurdum, aşağıdaki
> >>> gibi bir kernel derledim, sunucu tamamen rastgele zamanlarda donup
> >>> kalıyor.
> >>> Ne networkten ulaşabiliyorsunuz ne de consoledan. Alet donduğu zaman
> >>> sadece fiziksel olarak görebildiğim şey: üzerindeki disklerin
> >>> ışıklarının sürekli
> >>> yandığı, yani bir disk aktivitesinin olduğu. Logları sormayın, aleti
> >>> verbose log modunda açtım ama yine de crash anına ait hiç bir log
> >>> bulamadım. İlk
> >>> olarak SMP den şüpheleniyorum ikinci olarak ta makina üzerinde bulunan
> >>> RAID kartının sürücüsünden (ciss), belki de ciss SMP kernelle
> >>> problemlidir.
> >>> Konu hakkında tavsiyeleriniz neler olur.
> >>>
> >>> Teşekkürler,
> >>> Emin.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> GENERIC kernel opsiyonlarına eklenen satırlar.
> >>> options         SMP
> >>> options         QUOTA
> >>>
> >>> dmesg.boot dosyası
> >>> Copyright (c) 1992-2005 The FreeBSD Project.
> >>> Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
> >>>       The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
> >>> FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE #0: Fri Sep 23 15:09:53 UTC 2005
> >>>    [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/i386/compile/SMP-Q-GEN
> >>> Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz quality 0
> >>> CPU: Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 3.40GHz (3400.14-MHz 686-class CPU)
> >>>  Origin = "GenuineIntel"  Id = 0xf41  Stepping = 1
> >>> Features=0xbfebfbff<FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE
> >>> , MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CLFLUSH,DTS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,PBE>
> >>>  Hyperthreading: 2 logical CPUs
> >>> real memory  = 2147430400 (2047 MB)
> >>> avail memory = 2095968256 (1998 MB)
> >>> ACPI APIC Table: <HP     00000083>
> >>> FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor System Detected: 4 CPUs
> >>> cpu0 (BSP): APIC ID:  0
> >>> cpu1 (AP): APIC ID:  1
> >>> cpu2 (AP): APIC ID:  6
> >>> cpu3 (AP): APIC ID:  7
> >>> ioapic0 <Version 2.0> irqs 0-23 on motherboard
> >>> ioapic1 <Version 2.0> irqs 24-47 on motherboard
> >>> ioapic2 <Version 2.0> irqs 48-71 on motherboard
> >>> ioapic3 <Version 2.0> irqs 72-95 on motherboard
> >>> ioapic4 <Version 2.0> irqs 96-119 on motherboard
> >>> npx0: <math processor> on motherboard
> >>> npx0: INT 16 interface
> >>> acpi0: <HP P51> on motherboard
> >>> acpi0: Power Button (fixed)
> >>> Timecounter "ACPI-safe" frequency 3579545 Hz quality 1000
> >>> acpi_timer0: <24-bit timer at 3.579545MHz> port 0x908-0x90b on acpi0
> >>> cpu0: <ACPI CPU> on acpi0
> >>> cpu1: <ACPI CPU> on acpi0
> >>> cpu2: <ACPI CPU> on acpi0
> >>> cpu3: <ACPI CPU> on acpi0
> >>> pcib0: <ACPI Host-PCI bridge> on acpi0
> >>> pci0: <ACPI PCI bus> on pcib0
> >>> pcib1: <ACPI PCI-PCI bridge> at device 2.0 on pci0
> >>> pci2: <ACPI PCI bus> on pcib1
> >>> pcib2: <ACPI PCI-PCI bridge> at device 0.0 on pci2
> >>> pci3: <ACPI PCI bus> on pcib2
> >>> bge0: <Broadcom BCM5704C Dual Gigabit Ethernet, ASIC rev. 0x2100> mem
> >>> 0xfdef0000-0xfdefffff irq 25 at device 1.0 on pci3
> >>> miibus0: <MII bus> on bge0
> >>> brgphy0: <BCM5704 10/100/1000baseTX PHY> on miibus0
> >>> brgphy0:  10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 1000baseTX,
> >>> 1000baseTX-FDX, auto
> >>> bge0: Ethernet address: 00:12:79:a5:12:6b
> >>> bge1: <Broadcom BCM5704C Dual Gigabit Ethernet, ASIC rev. 0x2100> mem
> >>> 0xfdee0000-0xfdeeffff irq 26 at device 1.1 on pci3
> >>> miibus1: <MII bus> on bge1
> >>> brgphy1: <BCM5704 10/100/1000baseTX PHY> on miibus1
> >>> brgphy1:  10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, 1000baseTX,
> >>> 1000baseTX-FDX, auto
> >>> bge1: Ethernet address: 00:12:79:a5:12:6a
> >>> pcib3: <ACPI PCI-PCI bridge> at device 0.2 on pci2
> >>> pci4: <ACPI PCI bus> on pcib3
> >>> ciss0: <HP Smart Array 6i> port 0x4000-0x40ff mem
> >>> 0xfdf80000-0xfdfbffff,0xfdff0000-0xfdff1fff irq 51 at device 3.0 on pci4
> >>> pcib4: <ACPI PCI-PCI bridge> at device 6.0 on pci0
> >>> pci5: <ACPI PCI bus> on pcib4
> >>> pcib5: <ACPI PCI-PCI bridge> at device 0.0 on pci5
> >>> pci6: <ACPI PCI bus> on pcib5
> >>> pcib6: <ACPI PCI-PCI bridge> at device 0.2 on pci5
> >>> pci10: <ACPI PCI bus> on pcib6
> >>> uhci0: <Intel 82801EB (ICH5) USB controller USB-A> port 0x2000-0x201f
> >>> irq 16 at device 29.0 on pci0
> >>> usb0: <Intel 82801EB (ICH5) USB controller USB-A> on uhci0
> >>> usb0: USB revision 1.0
> >>> uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
> >>> uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
> >>> uhci1: <Intel 82801EB (ICH5) USB controller USB-B> port 0x2020-0x203f
> >>> irq 19 at device 29.1 on pci0
> >>> usb1: <Intel 82801EB (ICH5) USB controller USB-B> on uhci1
> >>> usb1: USB revision 1.0
> >>> uhub1: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
> >>> uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
> >>> uhci2: <Intel 82801EB (ICH5) USB controller USB-C> port 0x2040-0x205f
> >>> irq 18 at device 29.2 on pci0
> >>> usb2: <Intel 82801EB (ICH5) USB controller USB-C> on uhci2
> >>> usb2: USB revision 1.0
> >>> uhub2: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
> >>> uhub2: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
> >>> uhci3: <Intel 82801EB (ICH5) USB controller USB-D> port 0x2060-0x207f
> >>> irq 16 at device 29.3 on pci0
> >>> usb3: <Intel 82801EB (ICH5) USB controller USB-D> on uhci3
> >>> usb3: USB revision 1.0
> >>> uhub3: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
> >>> uhub3: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
> >>> pci0: <serial bus, USB> at device 29.7 (no driver attached)
> >>> pcib7: <ACPI PCI-PCI bridge> at device 30.0 on pci0
> >>> pci1: <ACPI PCI bus> on pcib7
> >>> pci1: <display, VGA> at device 3.0 (no driver attached)
> >>> pci1: <base peripheral> at device 4.0 (no driver attached)
> >>> pci1: <base peripheral> at device 4.2 (no driver attached)
> >>> isab0: <PCI-ISA bridge> at device 31.0 on pci0
> >>> isa0: <ISA bus> on isab0
> >>> atapci0: <Intel ICH5 UDMA100 controller> port
> >>> 0x500-0x50f,0x376,0x170-0x177,0x3f6,0x1f0-0x1f7 at device 31.1 on pci0
> >>> ata0: channel #0 on atapci0
> >>> ata1: channel #1 on atapci0
> >>> acpi_tz0: <Thermal Zone> on acpi0
> >>> atkbdc0: <Keyboard controller (i8042)> port 0x64,0x60 irq 1 on acpi0
> >>> atkbd0: <AT Keyboard> irq 1 on atkbdc0
> >>> kbd0 at atkbd0
> >>> psm0: <PS/2 Mouse> irq 12 on atkbdc0
> >>> psm0: model IntelliMouse Explorer, device ID 4
> >>> sio0: <Standard PC COM port> port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on acpi0
> >>> sio0: type 16550A
> >>> fdc0: <floppy drive controller (FDE)> port 0x3f2-0x3f5 irq 6 drq 2 on
> >>> acpi0
> >>> orm0: <ISA Option ROMs> at iomem
> >>> 0xee000-0xeffff,0xc8000-0xcbfff,0xc0000-0xc7fff on isa0
> >>> pmtimer0 on isa0
> >>> ppc0: parallel port not found.
> >>> sc0: <System console> at flags 0x100 on isa0
> >>> sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300>
> >>> sio1 at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa0
> >>> sio1: type 16550A
> >>> vga0: <Generic ISA VGA> at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on
> >>> isa0
> >>> Timecounters tick every 10.000 msec
> >>> acd0: CDROM <CD-224E/9.9A> at ata0-master PIO4
> >>> da0 at ciss0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0
> >>> da0: <COMPAQ RAID 1  VOLUME OK> Fixed Direct Access SCSI-0 device
> >>> da0: 135.168MB/s transfers
> >>> da0: 140006MB (286734240 512 byte sectors: 255H 32S/T 35139C)
> >>> SMP: AP CPU #2 Launched!
> >>> SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched!
> >>> SMP: AP CPU #3 Launched!
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Baris Simsek
> >> http://www.enderunix.org/simsek/
> >>
> >>
> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> Cikmak icin, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >> Turkiye'nin ilk FreeBSD kitabi: http://www.acikakademi.com/freebsd.php
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > -----------------------
> > Omer Faruk Sen
> > http://www.EnderUNIX.ORG
> > Software Development Team @ Turkey
> > http://www.Faruk.NET
> > For Public key: http://www.enderunix.org/ofsen/ofsen.asc
> > ********************************************************
> >
> >
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> >
> >
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> >
> >
>
>
>
>  -----------------------
> Omer Faruk Sen
> http://www.EnderUNIX.ORG
> Software Development Team @ Turkey
> http://www.Faruk.NET
> For Public key: http://www.enderunix.org/ofsen/ofsen.asc
> ********************************************************
>
>
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>
>
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