>On 24/1/02 10:41 PM, "Stephan Schildberg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Use MOZILLA, its free, its opensource. >> >> Bourdieu died and I feel time of NC 4.7 has come too. The world is >> changing, who is using LYNX? > >Actually, a lot of people still use lynx and with very good reason.
Oh, pardon, I intended to joke. > Firstly >because it can be used from a terminal and secondly because it works well >with screen readers for the blind. Ok. > Lots of people still use NC 4.7 because >Mozilla is (in my opinion anyway) absolutely awful - also because it is the >standard in a lot of organisations still (noteably where I work). > >> I really disgust crapy software if I had a chance to choose. >> So I redo the design, but I do not know why not using http://www.mozilla.org >> ?? > >A web site is designed to provide information to users. To achieve that aim >we need to be compatible. Just like we aim to make FreeCard cross platform >to be more compatible, we should make the website compatible with as many >platforms and browsers as well. If this causes great difficulties (and I'm >well aware that it can) perhaps we should look at simplifying the site >design to reduce the problems. I have to admit, you Adrian are right :-(. > >> yours, Stephan. > >I do like the look of the site in IE on Windows, however it seems to have >issues with IE on OS X. The stack image at the top right of the screen, the >brown lines are much thicker I'll change this. >(actually look like they might be a dark grey >line with a brown border around it) and the mailing list link has been >shoved down onto the lightest section of the page. > >I think all these problems stem from the fact that the directive to make the >top dark blue section a specific height isn't working in all browsers. > >I have spent the last year working on a very complex web-based system and I >can provide the following bits of advice that you may or may not wish to >heed. > >* Avoid layers - they work completely differently in almost every browser. >* Avoid absolute positioning as font sizes and styles will change greatly >between systems. >* Definitely avoid javascript - it is the root of all that is evil in HTML >compatibility - particularly as it gets more complex. >* KISS (Keep It Sensationally Simple). Every time you go to add a feature >ask yourself if it really does help convey the message better and actually >vocalise how it does. If you can't write down why you need the feature, >leave it out it's just another thing that could go wrong. > > >For the record pretty much all of this applies in any form of cross-platform >development as well. I have been working in Java for over 3 years now and >have learnt to live by these rules time and time again (except the >JavaScript which clearly doesn't apply). > >Sorry for the negative sounding email, no at all, it encourages me, I'll start over again, - no issue. > you're efforts are very much >appreciated so please do not be discouraged. It has been great to see >progress both on the website and the interpreter again. yes since I do only the website, I eagerly see the development of the parser. > >Okay, I couldn't stand being entirely negative so I've applied my rules to >the header of the page and come up with the following code which looks >almost identical to what the original version did in IE on Windows but looks >the same with IE in Windows and OS X as well as OmniWeb for OS X. My copy >of Mozilla refuses to open for some reason. Somewhere along the line I got >a bit delete happy and lost the small and bold directive for the font but >the layout appears to be perfect (at least for me). > ><body style="margin:0px;" BGCOLOR="#FFEEDD"> > > > ><table width="100%" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"> > <tr bgcolor="#425A7B"> > <td colspan=2> </td> > </tr> > <tr bgcolor="#425A7B"> > <td valign="bottom"><font style="color: white;">FreeCard.ORG</font> > <font style="color: #E1CAB5; font-family: Georgia, Times New Roman, >Times, serif; font-size: 16px;"> > - The HyperCard Clone</font></td> > <td align="right"> > <img src="imagery/HCstack.gif" width="95" height="83"> > </td> > </tr> > <tr height="33" bgcolor="#6B7B8C"> > <td> > <a href="http://www.freecard.org"; style="color:white;"> > <img src="imagery/HChome.gif" width="28" height="25" border="0"> > HOME</a> <a href="http://www.freecard.org"; >style="color:white;"> > <img src="imagery/HCnavigation.gif" border="0"> > INDEX</a> <a href="javascript:history.back()"> > <img src="imagery/HCback.gif" border="0"></a> > <a href="javascript:history.forward()"> > <img src="imagery/HCforward.gif" border="0"></a> > </td> > <td align="right" valign="bottom"> > <a href="http://www.geocrawler.com/archives/3/2763/2002"; >style="color:white;">MAILING > LIST <img src="imagery/HCletter.gif" width="24" height="24" >border="0"></a> > </td> > </tr> ><tr> ><!-- content table --> > > >The one caveat is that at the bottom of the code is the div tag for the >mailing list link which needs to be deleted or you get two mailing list >links showing. It should be noted that IE on OS X largely ignores absolute >positioning and works off of where the div tag is defined in the HTML file. >So make sure that div tags are defined in the place where you want them to >appear (ie: don't use absolute positioning as it will be mostly ignored). ><div align="right" valign="bottom"> seems to work perfectly in all browsers. > >Hope this helps and keep up the good work. Your advice is very helpful + hope not use up to much bandwidth with the "webdesign" thing, - I am just twittering around. thank you, the current version will be discarded, wait until I come up with a new design :-) back to work, Stephan. > >Adrian Sutton > -- _______________________________________________ Freecard-general mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/freecard-general
