On 5/16/11 8:57 AM, Clint Adams wrote:
I am going to anger Jonas by discussing something that
interests me, and even though UX is the very most
important thing about the FreedomBox project, [...]

Maybe people would be less angry (and others involved in FB could also be more productive) if:

1) FB defined some profiles/milestones, specifically, vCurrent that is achievable with current/working/proven open source software, and vNext that has discussions about undeveloped/unproven neat ideas. Or some other project split where current stuff can be focused on, and others can dream up new tech for later versions.

and/or:

2) Split up FB-discuss into some more focused lists, so UX people could talk in one, and people creating new net namespace tech can talk about that elsewhere. Perhaps one list for the main handful of subcomponents (mesh, encrypted email, fed socnet, etc), and a build/distribution list, for those who want to build their own devices/VMs today.

For example, for Tor use in FB, I'd rather be on the FB-tor list, working on how to adopt Torouter and tor-ramdisk and especially the new Tor web UI for the Excito B3 appliance, and how to integrate this into FB vCurrent. While, in parallel, net NS and UX people are also working on their goals, and some people don't have to subscribe to lists that make them angry. :-)

Anyway, just a general idea, and not focused towards Clint or Jonas or this message.

A group of us got together recently to discuss the state
of distributed naming technology.  We talked about
Zooko's Triangle[0], Netsukuku[1] ANDNA, i2p[2],
PetNames[3], Namecoin[4], and Tom Lord's proposal[5a,5b].

We omitted dot-p2p, IDONS, Tor Hidden Services.

Sounds like a fun get-together. Besides the above list, what about Tahoe/LAFS storage, Freenet storage/services? What about Handle System/DOI namespace tech usage for some of this?

There's also a few new IETF efforts that might be useful here two (sorry, those acronyms escape me at the moment, perhaps the P4P and ALTA areas?). Once I find the right wiki page for this namespace idea, I'll update the acronyms later.

Thanks.

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