On 14 September 2011 21:30, ya knygar <[email protected]> wrote: >> It's alive as far as I know. :) > > well, its alive but there isn't enough of life - as for me. > From what i see as a subscriber to public FSW list, > currently it is Not active. > > I think - most of initiatives from Brad Kipfer's wiki > that was mentioned in the first post - doesn't working with/into FSW. > > Maybe it would be slightly better when they would transfer the propositions > to W3C Community Group discussion systems, > Maybe.. > > For sure - that CA or USA meet up or any Face-to-faces before > aren't helpful at all - as for me, > as for any concurrent edition social network i know, including > XCCC (you might be interested in our > helping with better algorithms - http://primarypad.com/OeMj2ZnZqo > contact me please, if you have some questions/wish to help). > > Ok, we are in XCCC - kind of small, who cares that > we leave on other sides of the planet in W3C CA. > > There was the big and at some point - great Google Wave, > now it's code in big brave Apache Wave, > > i can't see nothing as propositions from FSW. > > having somewhere the site and somewhere the list > doesn't help to encourage Federated Social Web > existence. > > I don't think that - if we need to see FSW now, > we have needed it yesterday -- > the "Lots of very smart people in that group" > isn't succeeded or working productively in the > right direction. Not at all. > > @Melvin Carvalho > So - what should i do? (i just mean that, > maybe you could advice :) > what have i done: > i'm proposing the > One place -- W3C FSW group to work into, > around. We doesn't receive any feedback about > protocols we propose on it's list. Not a one message, > > than - i increasingly hear - even here, that > well - who cares of FSW - there are some one-two > popular networks that work under - as it is standardization org. > What should we do in > such a case? create the better alternative to the "FSW" > initiative? maybe OWF has these clever people and > they want to work here for FSW? Foundation with money? > these aren't rhetorical questions, i really need your advice. > > - > now a bit of rhetoric: > > You'v seen the "We need..." wiki, you'v seen the rough list of existing > initiatives.. > > as a reply for 'your' 2nd variant > -- how do you think > -- to how many of these initiatives FSW proposed/recommended > to use - at least - > https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/WYSIWYM editor > to help the FSW in that way..? > -- for how many - the previous W3C SW group - proposed? > > For all this time. > Semantic conceptions isn't something new, in the end, > > Ok.. another example > -- for the 1st variant > -- we have some ActivityStreams something.. > some popular status.net instances, some FB, some MySpace > kind of supported it.. let's say -- we have some RSS/Atom for many years > already.. Do you see some FedSocWeb from it's existence? i'm not. > - > > Do you think OStatus as the mighty all-including specification > would lead the 'FSW' group to make FSW? > > - > Don't get me wrong please, i - really like the Semantic Web idea, > i really, really like the Open Data. > We are trying hard to implement > the Semantic-ability in XCCC nets. I think - RDF in JSON > or just the clever XML > -- something like this - could be used into p2p and other crazy-mixed > social networking, to help the Semantic, eventually Federated Web. > What do you think of JSON for semantic BTW(by-the-way)? > I hope we would manage to combine it all with some clever Identity system, > so semantic wouldn't mean unsecured or un-private. > (I have found http://openetherpad.org/fXuqiu8nem > i think - you - really may help young XCCC that is > aiming into Boxes and FNF projects -- to make the > proper decisions! you could just write any opinion > under the 9. objective on that Primarypad link) > - > But, i have a feeling, > !just a feeling that - mixing the GUI's with data to transfer > the data isn't the best way for performance or security. > > Maybe if there would be best DB, like -- ok, we have Camlistore for almost > everything or Tahoe.. or everything through some ultrafast and cool WebDAV.. > .. i don't have the answers for these, and i don't see that if i am or > anyone would > post it to FSW list - there would be insightful reaction. Maybe > you - Melvin Carvalho - know some answers? > > PS: one and a half more questions to you- > You have the nice site, > - how have you filled it with RDF, visual markers? > i mean - do you know any great framework maybe > the preferable WYM.. or something planned > - for this, > or it is all by hand and meant like it would be ok for > dedicated users of fbx's , for example?
BTW same concept, but a better UI :) http://foafpress.org/ For example see: http://magnus.13mm.de/foaf.html Which I think is a reasonable looking profile page... > > > On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 2:11 PM, Melvin Carvalho > <[email protected]> wrote: >> On 14 September 2011 14:11, ya knygar <[email protected]> wrote: >>> we/you would need to breath the life to the FederatedSocialWeb.net >>> before we/you would see it, probably ;) >> >> It's alive as far as I know. :) >> >> Lots of very smart people in that group. I think they are having a >> meetup in san francisco. >> >> http://doodle.com/fe29nz5mgsk7yuww >> >> There's two rough approaches, both have merits IMHO >> >> 1. The FSW is slightly more top down, going from the activity streams schema >> >> 2. The other is slightly more bottom up, defining arbitrarly keys and >> values, more of a "NoSQL" style. >> >> For example, you can see from my homepage (a relatively normal >> homepage with some "rel" links) >> >> http://melvincarvalho.com/ >> >> A. Click on the "RDF" view at the top >> B. Then Click on bblfish >> C. Then Click on Jonas Smedegaard etc. >> D. Or click on one of the properties in a page ... eg interests have a >> whole date layer -- there's 100s of ecosystems iinked together >> >> You can get lost in there for ages, but it's already a federated >> social web existing today across many servers. (It's going to be >> awesome when FBX can become part of it) >> >> Hopefully both approaches will converge over time! >> >>> >> > _______________________________________________ Freedombox-discuss mailing list [email protected] http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/freedombox-discuss
