On 10/04/2011 11:56 AM, Timur Mehrvarz wrote:

> I really wish we could get to a point where we can trust the wireless
> connection, reducing the number of steps needed for PGP based
> "friedning", making the process more acceptable for 'regular people'.

i agree that it would be nice if this were possible.  I'm just not sure
how we'd get there.

One thought: what about a point-to-point wired connection?  That's
pretty easy for humans to physically inspect/verify, and wouldn't need
the additional optical verification check.

Is there such a standard connection for common handheld
computers/smartphones?

> But for as long as we do not fully trust the wireless connection - which
> is why we want to verify the key fingerprints - we cannot use it to
> coordinate/automate the verification process. I think.

I think untrusted wireless could be safely used for coordination and
automation of a key exchange handshake under two conditions:

 0) it is clear what is happening to the device operator, and

 1) the worst-case event that could happen from malicious wireless
interference is a visible failure-to-handshake

I haven't written up a precise spec for any automation like this, but it
seems plausible to me that a well-specified process could meet these
conditions.

        --dkg

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