anything without concurrent editing (think Wave) is uncool at this time ;) anything without approach to the Federated Social Web ideals and standardization is just another joke.
i could recommend at least 4 good variants that worth donating and other support that would really make the difference. For 'old school' - i see - working Status.net and Elgg, and that is proven to be enough. On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 12:15 PM, Yosem Companys <[email protected]> wrote: > Definitely, Melvin. Let us know. Sadly, super heroes don't exist IRL. > We're only human and can only build amazing stuff by sharing knowledge and > working together. So if you have any ideas on how we could improve our > efforts, we'd be happy to hear them. Heck, if you want to help us out, > either on the tech or human front or both, let us > know: http://diasporafoundation.org/get_involved > Thanks again, > Yosem > > On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 5:04 AM, Melvin Carvalho <[email protected]> > wrote: >> >> On 16 October 2011 12:49, Yosem Companys <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> So your goal is to raise $1m and "reinvent" something similar to the >> >> WWW, but more social. However do you realize that the WWW was >> >> >> >> designed to be social from day 1? >> > >> > If by "your goal" you mean "my personal goal," then yes. I can't speak >> > for >> > the whole community, but that is my own personal goal. There's a lot of >> > interesting stuff we could build with that sum of money. >> > The goal is NOT to create something more social than the WWW because I >> > know >> > sociability was the goal of the WWW. The goal is to open up walled >> > gardens >> > that attempt to fragment the open web. The problem is that in many >> > cases in >> > practice that sociability has become circumscribed to machine-to-machine >> > -- >> > NOT person-to-person -- interactions, which has been an unfortunate >> > development in the open web's evolution. >> > >> >> >> >> Facebook interoperates with this cloud, does diaspora? The impression >> >> I >> >> have to date is that >> >> diaspora 'pods' primarily link to other diaspora pods, rather than >> >> heterogeneous systems, is that correct? >> > >> > Any existing social networking site or website could connect with >> > Diaspora* >> > today. Our first app Cubbi.es is an independent web app that resides in >> > its >> > own native environment on the WWW and connects with Diaspora* as well. >> > No >> > need for developers to work on Diaspora*-specific apps, as they'd have >> > to do >> > with, say for example, Facebook. >> > At Diaspora*, we believe in standing on the shoulders of giants, meaning >> > that we never reinvent the wheel. We integrate existing standards and >> > technologies whenever possible. It just makes sense to do so, as it >> > cuts on >> > development time. >> > >> >> >> >> I'm not the greatest >> >> >> >> fan of Facebook, but people point fingers at them, but they have made >> >> an effort to interoperate. >> > >> > It's well documented that, when developers have tried to get Facebook >> > user >> > personal data out of Facebook, Facebook has often made it difficult to >> > do >> > so, if not outright prevented them from doing so. For Facebook, >> > interconnectivity is asymmetric. They are OK with your bringing data >> > from >> > anywhere on the web into Facebook, but they are not so keen on your >> > taking >> > it out. If you take too much out, they arbitrarily put a stop to it. >> > And >> > they have done so even in cases when Facebook users themselves have >> > wanted >> > to take their own data out of Facebook. >> >> Yosem, thanks for the response. I'm not 100% sure you fielded my >> queries, but I've taken the opportunity to review the 'Federation >> Protocol' on your wiki. I feel perhaps not as much is being done >> terms of interop, at this time, as it could be. If I get a chance >> I'll post some feedback to your mailing list, tho I know you're >> already members of the Federation Community Group, which is a good >> start. >> >> Wish you the best of luck with your goals, keep up the great work >> spreading the message that the social web, needs to be secure, >> decentral and free! >> >> > >> >> >> >> > Best, >> >> > Yosem >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 12:15 AM, Melvin Carvalho >> >> > <[email protected]> >> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> On 16 October 2011 02:28, Yosem Companys <[email protected]> >> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> > Hi All, >> >> >> > My name is Yosem, and I'm a member of this list, though I >> >> >> > generally >> >> >> > don't >> >> >> > say much. I'm a PhD student at Stanford but also work running the >> >> >> > Diaspora* >> >> >> > Foundation. >> >> >> > If you'd like invites, please let me know, and I'll be happy to >> >> >> > send >> >> >> > you >> >> >> > one. If you have any questions, please let me know too. Happy to >> >> >> > answer >> >> >> > them. We're very transparent, non-commercial, and community-run. >> >> >> > You >> >> >> > won't >> >> >> > get any BS from us. >> >> >> > Since a lot of people still have questions about Diaspora*, we >> >> >> > took a >> >> >> > moment >> >> >> > to address some of the things we have been hearing lately. We >> >> >> > hope >> >> >> > you'll >> >> >> > take a >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > look: http://blog.diasporafoundation.org/2011/10/15/diaspora-not-vaporware-not-a-nigerian-prince.html >> >> >> > Anyway, I'm at your disposal. Ask away. >> >> >> >> >> >> Thanks for pointing this out, that was an interesting read. >> >> >> >> >> >> If I've understood your financial statement correctly, you're >> >> >> looking >> >> >> to raise another $100, to keep going for the next year? >> >> >> >> >> >> My question is, does diaspora have plans to interoperate with other >> >> >> (non diaspora) FOSS social system, on the Web? If so, which ones? >> >> >> >> >> >> > Best, >> >> >> > Yosem >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 1:09 PM, Weaver <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Fri, 14 Oct 2011 14:41:14 +0200 >> >> >> >> Brandon Invergo <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > No sooner did I write that defense of Diaspora than I read this >> >> >> >> > article: >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > http://allthingsd.com/20111013/at-lunch-with-diaspora-the-non-profit-open-source-social-network-built-by-outsiders/ >> >> >> >> > In which they float the idea of charging people for running a >> >> >> >> > pod. >> >> >> >> > At >> >> >> >> > the same time, a friend on Facebook who has been waiting for an >> >> >> >> > invite to joindiaspora.com was talking about how he felt that >> >> >> >> > they >> >> >> >> > were soliciting invites in exchange for donations. I'm assuming >> >> >> >> > he >> >> >> >> > just got the same email as everyone else asking for donations >> >> >> >> > but >> >> >> >> > since they also sent it to the people waiting for invitations, >> >> >> >> > it >> >> >> >> > was >> >> >> >> > difficult not to make that assumption. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> <snip> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> That's definitely happening. >> >> >> >> I'm still waiting for an 'invitation' and got the email asking >> >> >> >> for >> >> >> >> $25 >> >> >> >> with the assurance that everybody donating wouldn't have to wait >> >> >> >> any >> >> >> >> longer. >> >> >> >> Young blokes beginning to see the uptake of a new project and >> >> >> >> eyeing >> >> >> >> Zuckerburg potentials is how I see it. >> >> >> >> If it carries on I might be declining the 'invitation' before I >> >> >> >> receive >> >> >> >> it. >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Weaver. >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> >> "In a world without walls and fences, >> >> >> >> what need have we for Windows or Gates?" >> >> >> >> -Anon. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> >> >> Freedombox-discuss mailing list >> >> >> >> [email protected] >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/freedombox-discuss >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ >> >> >> > Freedombox-discuss mailing list >> >> >> > [email protected] >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/freedombox-discuss >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> >> Freedombox-discuss mailing list >> >> >> [email protected] >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/freedombox-discuss >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Freedombox-discuss mailing list >> >> [email protected] >> >> >> >> http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/freedombox-discuss >> > >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Freedombox-discuss mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/freedombox-discuss > > > _______________________________________________ > Freedombox-discuss mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/freedombox-discuss > _______________________________________________ Freedombox-discuss mailing list [email protected] http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/freedombox-discuss
