-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 01 Nov 2011 12:00:17 +0000 [email protected] wrote:
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Re: Connecting People (Zot and a link dump) (Melvin Carvalho) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 15:38:54 -0400 > From: Brian Bartholomew <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Debian GNU/Linux on tablet hardware > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > > > i'm not asking people for a "committment to buy". i'm asking people > > if they would be *willing* to commit to buying, if a certain > > threshold of other people also publicly made the exact same > > committment. > > If the result was a turnkey working Linux system, I would buy one or > two at $100/each to inspire somebody to initially build them. > > I would be especially interested in something that could tolerate a > Florida outdoor temperature range (100 F in the shade) when placed in > a watertight sealed box without fan cooling. This is for a wild game > camera, chicken coop door controller, etc. > > Why am I interested in this proposal rather than any of the other > small machines that already exist? Because (a) I'm also interested in > freedombox and want to encourage it, and (b) I expect the networking > features I want will be very similar to freedombox. > > Brian > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 13:52:03 -0700 > From: J David Eisenberg <[email protected]> > To: Brian Bartholomew <[email protected]> > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Debian GNU/Linux on tablet hardware > Message-ID: > <camhxsqoq_2avin2fzhxtynzku-c8blq9qw21mmwro1vbu5j...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 12:38 PM, Brian Bartholomew <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> i'm not asking people for a "committment to buy". ?i'm asking > >> people if they would be *willing* to commit to buying, if a > >> certain threshold of other people also publicly made the exact > >> same committment. > > > > If the result was a turnkey working Linux system, I would buy one > > or two at $100/each to inspire somebody to initially build them. > > > > I'd buy three of them at the price. > > > I would be especially interested in something that could tolerate a > > Florida outdoor temperature range (100 F in the shade) when placed > > in a watertight sealed box without fan cooling. ?This is for a wild > > game camera, chicken coop door controller, etc. > > > > Why am I interested in this proposal rather than any of the other > > small machines that already exist? ?Because (a) I'm also interested > > in freedombox and want to encourage it, and (b) I expect the > > networking features I want will be very similar to freedombox. > > > > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Brian > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Freedombox-discuss mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/freedombox-discuss > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 18:52:32 -0400 > From: Robinson Tryon <[email protected]> > To: Brian Bartholomew <[email protected]> > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Debian GNU/Linux on tablet hardware > Message-ID: > <cack2x9-aenj0eanw6aie4_wluq2zojhkpmlzdp6emhigvnj...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 3:38 PM, Brian Bartholomew <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> i'm not asking people for a "committment to buy". ?i'm asking > >> people if they would be *willing* to commit to buying, if a > >> certain threshold of other people also publicly made the exact > >> same committment. > > > > If the result was a turnkey working Linux system, I would buy one > > or two at $100/each to inspire somebody to initially build them. > > I'm willing to spend at least $100 each year on some hardware from the > FreedomBox project that will run a useful system for me. And I think > that you can line up 99 other supporters without hardly any effort. > > The key things here are > > 1) Hit a sweet price point > > Something about $100 means that more people will be willing to buy-in > to the system. And that sounds like a good "second wind" for the > project. > > 2) Market the system as Free-software friendly > > Tout the fact that 100% of the source for the device is available. > > 3) Make the system useful > > The glorious vision of the FreedomBox isn't here yet. And that's okay. > All you need to do is get a good enough hardware + software mix that > people find it *useful*, even if minimally so. > > Right now I would pay $100 for a little box that could run three > useful applications: > a) SSH > b) Web server > c) Mail server > > > If group-buys of hardware can help the FreedomBox project, then I'm > more than happy to sign on. It also can give people like me a tangible > item to show off to my friends -- and maybe get them to buy one, or at > least pay more attention to the project. And that kind of community > growing is very valuable to the project. > > --R > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 23:17:52 -0500 > From: Nick Daly <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: [Freedombox-discuss] Connecting People (Zot and a link dump) > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > I've been wondering what a decentralized social network would look > like for the last couple days, and come up with a few kooky (if > potentially functional) ideas, like customized and encrypted > OStatus/Atom feeds (for pull-protocols or broadcasting). > > A bit more research, and it looks like a better solution is already in > process, through Zot: > > http://dfrn.org/zot-protocol.txt > > Zot depends on Webfinger and Salmon, which seem to allow and encourage > decentralized, self-published, social networks, particularly when > coupled with GPG's Web-of-Trust (as provided through Zot). If Zot > (and consumers like Friendika) can pull this off, they might've given > us both a protocol and UI for social networking on the FBX. > > Thoughts? Where does this fall short on the stated needs and > use-cases (aside from being a bit incomplete, black kettle and all)? > > Nick > > > - ---- > > WebFinger: > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Webfinger > https://code.google.com/p/webfinger/ > http://hueniverse.com/2009/08/introducing-webfinger/ > > Salmon: > > http://www.salmon-protocol.org/ > http://www.salmon-protocol.org/salmon-protocol-summary > > Zot-supporting documents: > > http://macgirvin.com/profile/mike > https://groups.google.com/group/zot-dev > - -- > GPG: 0x0928D23A | D95C 3204 2EE5 4FFD B25E C348 9F27 33F4 0928 D23A > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) > > iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJOr3LwAAoJEJ8nM/QJKNI64A4QAIGkUFiVUcX9wsAzy3WjtV1Z > HfqYRpBplxa2M608R/yFznIVidXO6wehaOquBuq5W7ZEWIoc4kG7lygGn0LDrQTM > e/Y9CeYZ1f2sI8tQb29m8/JLgE40SMXR5gsjQORJyEpua97g7rX+C3nN0/Tiwe8B > 2qkrU1JFwNBuGtvrdrl5xvGka7F4sKByXicrRsB09pa8uSI6gu+1UqsW5sFGoGX3 > 4BQHK+AfxOOTYFsVTbKOh1cUV0RkfTvX2wpRIHXCIgpyWlpfG+cf8QTO6fjMoPyQ > L8O0Jy6VpHQh/IcoeORFr2bljgja5vTTr7u7Ty/86aVUcyh87KwpEbD/mjcN/YY3 > 8Xr98RLqWlcCdr6Lk2lAijy6DCJeTPbhae2oGBCWZbj8Ky5fbC2ez/SSZRIqRU6z > dc4AfmUXXM/So8XaxQpehgGq5A7uA1yNcCRY/qlWkoqjlnexaP1v/kuss0pmYV4z > 1jklvY61XzjFe066Usx3UoP8UbN0pFiA2G+CyROJlW0nWLuguZOqOXEq2qU/cIoA > eTbkMnMyUQY0uF/Cx11UYLsWnF6nh1r2tvsvJH4+KzPNwGxQDkA16vstUDhmXqkC > /yHbT5Ft0AHQYBdW/oMXAoTp7tizw7xoz2EuuoCpAzohFzfnGLr0P2Qq6SIOSpPB > SdXBR1F5bdoGqCDgouQC > =a8U7 > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 03:02:00 -0700 > From: "Weaver" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Freedombox-discuss] Debian GNU/Linux on tablet hardware > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8 > > > > On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 3:38 PM, Brian Bartholomew <[email protected]> > > wrote: > >>> i'm not asking people for a "committment to buy". ?i'm asking > >>> people if they would be *willing* to commit to buying, if a > >>> certain threshold of other people also publicly made the exact > >>> same committment. > >> > >> If the result was a turnkey working Linux system, I would buy one > >> or two at $100/each to inspire somebody to initially build them. > > > > I'm willing to spend at least $100 each year on some hardware from > > the FreedomBox project that will run a useful system for me. And I > > think that you can line up 99 other supporters without hardly any > > effort. > > > > The key things here are > > > > 1) Hit a sweet price point > > > > Something about $100 means that more people will be willing to > > buy-in to the system. And that sounds like a good "second wind" for > > the project. > > > > 2) Market the system as Free-software friendly > > > > Tout the fact that 100% of the source for the device is available. > > > > 3) Make the system useful > > I think it might be an idea to see what else is available before > decision time arrives: http://www.efytimes.com/e1/72350/fullnews.htm > > First rule of business: Check out all options; > Second rule of business: Check out all options thoroughly. > *Before* you invest. > Regards, > > Weaver. For €100, plus minus, i would buy a device (asap) ssh and web-server would be sufficient, mail-server would be good. 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