On 7 November 2011 11:34, Melvin Carvalho <[email protected]> wrote: > On 2 November 2011 04:28, Nick Daly <[email protected]> wrote: >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> Melvin Carvalho <[email protected]> writes: >> >>> I'm listening to the comments right now. Evan just said: >>> >>> "the big thing we hear from our users is we would like a web that >>> works like The Web, not one that works like an email inbox" >>> >>> This will be soooooo much easier with FBX where everyone has complete >>> control of their box, keys and web server ... I think once we have a >>> few boxes talking set up it's going to be a whole lot clearer. >> >> Precisely. I'm just trying to weigh what options we have for my >> (admittedly still unclear) ideas of how the system should work. It'd be >> nice if the (box-to-box, friend-to-friend, encrypted, and customized) >> communication bit was already worked out, and nobody needed to invent >> any wheels. >> >> The big questions are: how do they talk? How should they talk? There >> are a couple options out there already, and I'm nearly certain there's >> no one-size-fits all solution, there are lots and lots of use-cases. >> >> I'm also not convinced there's an existing solution that precisely fits >> the project's (or at least my) ideals. I'm looking for something like >> Webfinger over a DHT based on GPG that provides both routing and >> identity information. If this sounds interesting to anybody, feel free >> to ping me off list. > > Still trying to get the minutes but from what I gathered: > > - People are moving away from XML and towards JSON > > - OStatus hasnt gained the adoption it would have liked > > - Salmon seems particularly hard to implement with everyone seeming to > do it a slightly different way > > > I've had a brief look at zot, I'm highly skeptical it can gain adoption > > - http://purl.org/zot/1.0 did not resolve for me > > - Unsure if the OStatus folks will want to run with it > > - Unsure if it's using new URI schemes, scaling, IANA acceptance etc. > > - Unsure how much it's been peer reviewed. > > > General thoughts: > > - This is a problem that no one has solved yet. > > - The wordpress blog you run on your plug server has potential to be > developed into a web based social net, perhaps even possible with > something like drupal > > - GNU Social still has potential as a microblogging solution, perhaps more > > - Retroshare works well with PGP and IM > > - There seem some plans to develop an end to end encrypted XMPP / GPG > thing (dont hold your breath ;) ) > > - I think the principle of good design are 'low coupling, high > cohesion'. Meaning as far as possible dont try and be FBX specific. > > - Apache 2 with a self signed cert is a very good start. Build up > incrementally through trial and error. > > - I think the correct way to model things by FAR is what facebook have > done with the open graph protocol. A FOSS version of that with data > freedom, and keep your own logs.
Forgot to mention gwibber which is pretty nice and I guess most here would be familiar with. > >> >> Nick >> - -- >> GPG: 0x0928D23A | D95C 3204 2EE5 4FFD B25E C348 9F27 33F4 0928 D23A >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >> Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) >> >> iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJOsLj4AAoJEJ8nM/QJKNI6zeYQAKhj/mxqTSnybmeOXnWtceCN >> NsoPXsUW5j0kP6/P7jKkalUoZwCrYijXhPRRjVqCz/g12KnM13pIf7RzCkMC6yHq >> GG/uw6OH4tQXEymnngFLTbMNlrLRnFcKGPwhuIgY1CB95DV+wDIKzRVeTc7FMG5e >> IsFXk3nLTSK+G38FrDGyikO6iitpNclf956QN80GMxUWLVcLNEDERT2m2WzB0Syn >> os0V+SUKKPf/bQf3X6ipQFmBsZv1pElzJRsGxz7bsg6Ht+32ZREwfUivughAz6g5 >> GTNQeQOvWWGUGVjzhRiR8lEl+PSg/a9owv6g4zM4nEshYClBm1mrkR5geifLGYfZ >> zbvwqVrW100VsPOoM4vc1kP2KSPaE5XGmIarhIGW4/hqlvLiXyL7g/zznklJ6fSX >> LlfWT0/zUSRngZ4cgMflwrtZqC7Qh6ZH8PlbuM8M5eO4nge20R41OOOe4cz5VNaN >> SWHjSSyioGVm+fevKU2gPeZXYQWnJTzoa1K/Fm6n1gqCmSCE6Ct54/tuwmPKISSQ >> SLU71NDyaueVWH6cDStns7rMHgDthhUX6ssnR6iQNw83TYiHK5lTMYCJcUF9J96h >> a02xrSycVDjDo0l6C/3kA/XcafNcWKwJoy6bb/W5DK9hhJNjIPqP40qYV4Vivm5O >> L51As9EZKlGrnBvASxAy >> =3/7i >> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >> > _______________________________________________ Freedombox-discuss mailing list [email protected] http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/freedombox-discuss
